Do you have any left? I would love to have some but unfortunately I don't have seeds right now (I will next year!) I would love to write a note to Yvonne, probably more than one- with pics to let her know how the shared seeds are growing! I'll even put the grandkids in the pics next to them!

Here are my albums for coleus and salvias. I hope you enjoy them. If anyone is interested in trading a particular one let me know and I will start rooting them right away. Link to my Coleus album http://picasaweb.google.com/Arielrob/Coleus Link to my salvia album http://picasaweb.google.com/Arielrob/Salvias

Actually, this brouhaha is a combination of the appeal of the forbidden fruit appeal by teeny-boppers wanting to experiment and scare their parents to declare independence in a stupid way, politicians looking for political power by exaggerating the dangers of a potent drug, and a press that is looking for headlines to grab attention. Yes, I said "exaggerating the dangers of a potent drug". This is not oxymoronic because most users want it for getting part hearty. It does not work that way. Taking it is no fun, and the results are not pleasant for anyone who has repressed emotions, which includes most persons. So most stop using it after one or two experiments. Masticating a cud of the bitter leaves or smoking an aerosol are the only ways to get the experience. The article cited claimed that taking a tea was effective. Not so. Salvinorin A is deactivated by stomach acid. It has to be taken in through contact with mucosa, or the membranes of the nose or cheek. The problems come from those who are self-medicating and keep trying in foolish ways, mostly by inadvertently taking a huge overdose. This is why the concentrates are the most dangerous forms, and is the case with the most publicized and quite rare incidents. Persons who want to experiment with it as an entheogen are generally semi-professional in their approach. They represent a very small portion of our population. If divinorum doesn't work, they will try something else. In my opinion, if they want to reach their soul or talk to god, they should go on a retreat, go on a fast, take up meditation, or if they are really dedicated, join a monastery. These approaches are all much less self-destructive. Arguments from ignorance are not going to deal with this problem in a useful way. Refraining from dramatizing it will help a lot. All parties would benefit for more respect for the ordinary. I'd advise all these parties to take up gardening to ease their nerves. Monasteries have gardens, don't they?

No pictures, but in "The Genus Salvia (Labiatae) in Colombia" by Messrs Wood and Harley, it is described as follows: S. venulosa is a low, usually decumbent undershrub less than 1m in height, with a brownish stem, hairy on the angles. The leaves are narrowly ovate, c. 6-9 x 3 cm, acuminate at the apex, cuneate and decurrent onto the petiole at the base, glabrescent except on the veins below, the lower surface violet and reticulate. The inflorescence of short terminal and axillary racemes 5-15 cm long; verticillasters distant, 3-6-flowered. The calyx is 8-9 mm long, relatively broad, the teeth c. 1mm long, pilose with gland-tipped septate hairs and with the upper lip prominently 5-veined. The corolla is a distinctive wine-red, villous outside, epapillate but pubescent inside. The anthers are included, the style shortly exserted. A very local species known from deeply shaded, wooded gullies in the Western Cordillera in Risaralda, 1500-2000 m. It is the only Salvia restricted to this Cordillera. It is Section TUBIFLORAE (Epling), along with S. camarifolia, S. falcata, and S. tortuosa. The article was published in 1989. Hope this helps.........a bit botanical for me! But it seems pretty obvious that it is a shade-lover.