Wellrounded, Early on you asked about Noisettes. FWIW my experiences in a zone6-7 growing environment is that the simpler noisettes (as opposed to the tea noisettes) are stronger through winter than HTs. I grow Chinas and Rosa moschata. The chinas have little winter damage; R. moschata likes the warmer area (up by the house) and tolerates with slow growth the bottom of the hill which I've measured as five to seven degrees colder in difficult winters. The smaller blooming single and semidouble and double noisettes put on good size in my gardens. They keep their older canes through winter although they will loose canes put out in late fall. In a warmer area downstream, down the river in Knoxville, with some kind of heat island from the city plus many, many cars going by each day, a tea noisette (Duch. de Auerstadt) had great growth and bloom. Mine from the same source struggles. If you grow Chinas easily, it's worth trying the simpler noisettes as well as R. moschata (for its fragrance and elegance). If you're in an area with great heat (for your zone) and most of your HT canes make it through almostall winters, try a tea noisette or two. Much luck, they are worth the effort.

joanne - Welcome to Florida. We moved here almost 11 years ago from Clinton Township, NJ; originally from West Orange. From Hallandale Beach, go west (unless you want to go swimming) and then either south to Homestead (about 1/2 an hour) where you will find dozens of retail nurseries or go north to Davie where you have Jesse Durkos, Trinity Churchside Gardens (see the thread I've posted about it) and others. If you continue west to Flamingo Road and then north, you'll find Alexanders and a bunch of other ones just before you hit 595. 595 East will take you back to 95 and Hallandale Beach Blvd.

Hi, I just found this thread and with it, some great ideas for some new places to try. We live on the North Shore (MA) on the seacoast just south of the the MA/NH line. Here are our favorites: Our Favorite: NunanÂs Florist and Greenhouse 269 Central Street, Georgetown, MA 01833 www.nunans.com (978) 352-2927â Great variety of annuals, perennials, herbs, shrubs, trees, vines, ferns, native plants, fruit trees, and unusual plants as well. They also have mulch, lots of gorgeous statuary, garden furniture, and a large and airy shop with every doo dad and tool you can imagine, and a full service florist shop. Prices are excellent and at the end of the season, you can get some amazing bargains. First Runner Up: Corliss Brothers Nursery 31 Essex Rd. Ipswich , MA 01938 http://www.corlissbros.com (978) 356-5422 Long time family owned nursery  they have great sales, an email "club", and you can find some wonderful things here. ItÂs a hike for us but we make the trip at least a couple of times a year. Second Runner Up: Wolf Hill 60 Turnpike Road, Ipswich, MA 01938 www.wolfhillgardencenter.com (978) 356-6342 Lots of perennials that you donÂt see in some of the larger nurseries. All kinds of "different" and unusual garden knick knacks and furbelows. Staff is vert knowledgeable and helpful. Their "first" store was in Gloucester but the Ipswich site is closer to us. CanÂt compare them, as we have never gone to Gloucester, but weÂve gotten some great plants at the Ipswich store plus some fabulous statuary. First Choice for Water Garden Suppliers and Guidance Country Gardens 157 Central Street, Rowley, MA 01969 http://www.countrygardens-rowley.com (800)628-0565 (978) 948-2124 Water garden specialists and our only place to shop for things for our pond. They are the expertÂs experts and both Bill and Lisa are always there, always ready to offer guidance and advice, and answer questions. They sponsor a large regional two day pond tour each year in June. First Choice for herbs, heirloom tomatoes, and herbal products. The Herb Farmacy 30 Elmwood Street, Salisbury, Massachusetts 01952 http://www.theherbfarmacy.com (978)834-7879 Best local source for herbs, vegetable plants, heirloom tomatoes, all organically grown. One thing to remember, they accept cash and checks but no credit cards. They give lectures on various topics throughout the area. I attended one sponsored by our local garden club and it was fabulous.

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