If there is a vacant unit, ask the landlords if you can move into that. That would be the simplest thing to do. Ask the landlord to come over for a meeting. Show them the rugs, explain everything you do to keep your daughter quiet. Tell them that the constant complaints and police harassment are not acceptable. Ask the landlords what they are going to do to make the downstairs neighbors quit bothering you. Start complaining about the downstairs neighbors. For a week or two, document everything they do that is in violation of the lease, and all their noise. Record the dog barking, take pictures of the cars blocking you in. I can't believe the landlords didn't know about the people downstairs. They have a choice--keep the unpleasant people down stairs and have people move out of the upstairs unit as quickly as possible, or deal with the downstairs people and have a quiet building. Also, check with the police to see if there is any consequence for the downstairs people if they continue to make false claims against you.

Wow. I feel bad for you. I am having the same issues with my next door neighbor. I'm only 6 months into my lease and he complained twice to the office, probably 3-4 times by knocking on my door and pounding on the wall. Which I'm starting to feel like he is harassing us. I cannot believe the things these other peeps are telling you. I agree with you that it is an apartment and there are going to be noises regardless of the time of the day. If you cannot handle the noise, do not live in an apartment. My neighbor works from home and I'm guessing he works at night. But I shouldn't have to quiet down just so he could focus on his job. I'm paying for rent just like everybody else, why should I try to please my neighbor or follow his rules. I respect my neighbors and never make noises intentionally. I'm just having my normal conversations with my fiancee and sometimes I do have family and friends over, but we are usually quiet before 10pm. We do our weekly cleaning and vaccuming. We also noticed that the neighbor is bothered by the way we open and shut our doors. The doors in our unit likes to snap-in shut when its like an inch away from the lock. This neighbor just don't want any kind of noise. I am not going to shut up and be quiet like a mice. I'm not being disruptive or disrepecting my neighbors. He even had the audacity to say he never had any issues with his next door neighbors until we moved in. After numerous complaints, we had to go and ask our neighbors around our unit including the ones downstairs if they can hear us and if we were ever too loud. They all said we are fine and they don't hear anything from our unit besides normal things like walking around and dropping things. Sometimes I feel like he is delusional. We even spoke to the management team and they agreed with us that IT IS an apartment, there are going to be noises. If this neighbor renews his lease then thats too bad, hes going to have to deal with us. You just keep doing your thing girl.

I know this originated years ago and who knows what the original poster has experienced or learned in the past 12 years. Just to discuss: There always seems to be just two sides of the coin with topics involving neighbor noise - with one type believing that they have a right to do as they please and not follow rules (many signing an agreement to do so), besides not considering how their actions and behavior affects others. This type appears thoughtless, selfish, childish and defensive - characteristics which I imagine exist for them even when at work, in traffic or otherwise amongst others. There seems to be confusion of what regular living noise can be. I don't believe it is expected for others to be whispering or for there to be complete silence ever, but nighttime is typically a quiet time. People are going to use the toilet or wash hands during the night, though. Hearing plumbing, cleaning, the use of tools during daytime hours is normal, as is walking (by those whose footfalls strike the floor, normally). I wouldn't care if one has company at times, expecting that it will respectfully wind down at a proper point. It is when something is excessive or ongoing daily or after hours, that is problematic. Nuisance noise is listed as partying, fighting, unusual noise after hours. (I question how dropping items regularly, slamming and hyperactively running around at all hours can be considered normal noise?) The other type of person is aware and respectful of those they share housing space with. They want to enjoy their own music, TV, chatting, etc., but are respectful enough to not go beyond a limit and want to enjoy their own peace and quiet. They will not be clunking in the kitchen and running a disposal or blender at 2:30 am or have music or TV bass noise reverberate into another's unit at any time of day. (I feel that amplified sound should not even be allowed in apartments). Considerate tenants will not run or stomp around endlessly for hours upon another's ceiling. Respectful tenants expect others to behave accordingly, which I suppose property owners / management companies expect of tenants, yet appears that some do not enforce "rules", when others will. It has been my experience that MOST neighbors have been of the considerate type, having experienced the other type in more of a succession in later years, those having a sense of entitlement and arrogance in common. I don't want to hear another's rumbling TV or stereo bass washing out my own entertainment (at a normal volume, being a few feet away from), just because one being selfish and childish insists on having everything amplified. I don't want to hear another stomping around at all hours, just because they have a walking issue and don't care how it sounds on another's ceiling (something a normal walker doesn't cause). Also, if one has a schedule that has them awake when most others are asleep, it is not wise to live above others. It seems that this issue will continue unless it is properly addressed by all, having it established that there will be no tolerance of disruptive behavior in shared housing. If there were known consequences, it would be an improvement. If everyone were to have it instructed to them early in life what appropriate behavior is, this would not be such a problem, but not all parents do this. Everyone has their own lifestyle, but it is clear that some are just not appropriate for shared housing, not only by their attitude and behavior, but since not having an understanding of what it takes in order to live this way.

I didn't recommend a 1.5 cu ft softener anywhere in this thread. I said "just to get the 12 gpm SFR for your tub you'd need 1.5 cu ft of resin and that wouldn't accommodate your other appliances". To clarify, a 1.5 cu ft softener would only support the SFR needed by the tub and that would be ignoring any other water use in the home. During the holidays with 20 people it would be difficult to find any moment when there wouldn't be someone using water somewhere in the house like sink, toilet, bath tub, washing machine, shower, water heater, etc... understand? "Soft [not salt] water brining -- my mistake"... now more to learn... There is soft water brining with hard water regeneration and there is soft water brining with soft water regeneration. The 1.5 cu ft softener you seem to have fallen in love with only offers soft water brining with HARD water regeneration which is a good feature but not as desirable as soft water brining WITH soft water regeneration which the Kinetico offers. The 1.5 cu ft softener you seem to have fallen in love with will regenerate at 2:00 AM (in some control valves you can change the time but it MUST be during a period where there is NO water use) generating the noise you don't want to hear and do it for a longer time interval and waste unused hardness removal capacity set aside as a reserve while the Kinetico will regenerate immediately whenever the gallon count zeros with no set aside reserve capacity being wasted. The Kinetico will use less water and salt to treat an equal # of gallons of hard water than the 1.5 cu ft softener you seem to have fallen in love with which SAVES you money every time it regenerates... and the resin will last longer because it is being regenerated with SOFT water. "Previously posted information: 1.5 cu. ft. tank handles 30,000 - to 45,000 grains of hardness, using a minimum of 6 # to a max of 15 pounds of salt for regeneration. Am I missing something?" Yes you are and for the umpteenth time... the max hardness removal capacity of 1.5 cu ft of resin at the max salt dose of 15 lbs/cu ft or 22.5 lbs for 1.5 cu ft of resin is 40,000 not 45,000 The occasional use you now define is a considerable percentage of your annual water use. The additional occupancy at your home during the holidays will be a huge increase in water use for that period. If you're smart you'll buy the Kinetico 2060S OD and get what you need. The Kinetico will have a longer warranty and cost less to operate then your 1.5 cube favorite and in the long run it will cost you less than buying what you don't need.