1 may be a local hybrid with urbicum genes. 2 is definitely Aloe saponaria.

Initial post, howler of a typo 'convential', big fingers typed that but iit was conventional of course. If nothing else, I am really quite enjoying plannning this hypothetical journey, I am already driving down the roads. For some reason, Mendocino County and it's redwoods seem to grab my imagination even more that Humboldt. It may be because of Jeremy Joan Hewe's book and his photos of loggers standing on immense fallen trees around Fort Bragg. I really fancy doing the drive on the 'Tunnel to the sea' along Highway 128 on the Navarro River. It sounds so evocative. This site below is very interesting, Hendy Woods also look very nice. Here is a link that might be useful: Tunnel to the sea

There is alot to see. If you go up interstate 5, that will take you up fast, 101 is scenic, but bad traffic. I personally would avoid LA area, Ventura has a nice mission, as does Santa Barbara. Bakersfield is nice also. Around Santa Nella is good, If you have children look for Montery Bay aquarimarine. Go to Auto Club and discuss what you want to see. Also go into the motels/hotels in your area and look for broucheurs. No matter where you go it will be fast heavy traffic. Go to the library, and look for Sunset Magazine. Lots of ads etc as the Coastal Mag also

Cool! The flowers will tell.