Best organic lawn fertilizer on the cheap?
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Which organic fertilizer is best?
Comments (4)Agree there is no "best" and the choices you list are only a few of the many available. Fruit trees and lawns have totally different needs. So what and why do your's actually need or are you just guessing they need something? And fertilization with fruit trees in the spring is specifically timed to bud set, not just randomly applied. Check with the growers on the Fruits and Orchards forum and you'll find that in general it is not recommended. Dave...See Morecheap organic fertilizer
Comments (24)purpleinopp: "Good soil" existed long before people started messing with it. You said, "I've read that California's Silicon Valley sits on top of 45 feet of good topsoil..." How do you think it got "good?" Was there nothing growing there? Assuming there were plants and trees there, why would they have not depleted all of the nutrients? " Try reading the whole post. You answered your own question, for the most part: "'Good soil' existed long before people started messing with it." Central California had a lot of good soil. They got enough rain for stuff to grow, but didn't get so much rain that the nutrients were washed away. They had a lot of natural nutrients, better than you'll find in most places. Calif has long been one of the best food-producing places in the U.S., if not the world. Mother Nature had a lot of good stuff to work with. Once the people got involved, they took and took and took nutrients off the land in the form of crops, and replaced nothing but crappy manufactured NPK. The huge Central Valley there is nothing but dead soil now, sand that forms no useful purpose except giving the plants something to hold onto. Look around at the U.S. They grow a lot of vegetables in Arizona, with an incredible amount of imported water and chemical fertilizers where normally very little grows. And WHY does little grow there naturally? Because it doesn't have enough nutrients to support it. Mountains have lots of pine, fir and aspen trees, and very acidic soil with few nutrients. Yeah, they're covered with the only plants that will grow there, but they won't grow vegetables or fruit trees. Take any area in the world and look at what grows there without assistance. In most places, the plants are limited to WHAT THE SOIL WILL SUPPORT. My soil test says my soil is almost totally lacking in nitrogen, low in calcium and magnesium, low in sulfur, and boron is practically non-existent. So what do you think grows here with no added nutrients? Take a guess. Did you guess fir trees, cypress, arborvitae, oak trees, blackberries, scotch broom and wild grass? Well, there's a lot of good eating, right? And I can take all that stuff, grind it up and mix it into with the 5.8 soil, put more on the top as mulch, and guess what I'm going to get? More fir trees, cypress, arborvitae, oak trees, blackberries, scotch broom and wild grass, because that's all the place will support. Compost and mulch WILL NOT supply everything plants need, because the compost and mulch are lacking in nutrients themselves. Get it? Sue...See MoreWhere to find organic lawn fertilizers in Edmonton?
Comments (31)"Instead of calling people down you could have just said compost does meet the requirements I need" --Why the heck would I say that? Are you daft? That's exactly the opposite of what I've been saying, that it WON'T meet my requirements for a fertilizer as the NPK values are too low. "Comparing rice to being a protein would be like comparing compost to being nitrogen since it has, arguably in amounts, nitrogen in it. This analogy is just wrong. " Are you stupid? I am not saying that rice IS a protein. I was saying that calling compost a fertilizer due to it having minimal amounts of NPK would be akin to calling rice a protein since it has a tiny bit of protein. Get it now? I was using that to point out that even though compost has a minute amount of NPK, that I wouldn't call it a fertilizer just cause NPK is present, as it does not have enough NPK to really fill the role as a fertilizer in a lawn program. It's there to provide microbes that digest the organic protein from the corn meal, SBM etc. *Facepalm...See MoreBest choice of organic fertilizer (pellets/meal) with rabbits?
Comments (15)Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned I've been the hybrid organic guy for a couple years now. Pesticide and Pre-M use when needed but feeding almost exclusively corn-gluten meal during months when it can be used (ie not in the dead of winter when activity is low). So I think going with the 20lb's per 1000 sounds about right. And I can always go and throw some Starbucks grounds down to hide the smell if it gets particularly bad. I hate their coffee but my yard does smell quite nice when I chuck 5-10lbs of used grounds down (always funny to see the people walking their dogs looking around trying to find the barista on my sidewalk!). I'm going to put down the meal tomorrow afternoon and It is going to be really hot and humid here the next couple days (mid 90's and sunny) so hopefully that doesn't really bring out the smell....See Morestudly
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