Thanks againAftermidnight: you helped me before.THere is a possibility that I am dealing with drainflies here and not whiteflies? Read the link you posted here thanks very informative, however I m still not sure what I am dealing with.Apparently we have lost of drainflies in Vancouver because there was/ is so much rain and keeps beeing wet.The treatment for each of those is different so I must make sure what we are dealing with.THanks so much
scarleta, maybe a little better description. What do they look like...white flies are not hard to identify, being white. Where are you finding them - established plants, seed flats or containers?
If small (about 1/8 inch) white, and on the underside of leaves, likely whiteflies.
If small (about 1/8 inch), dark-colored, long-legged and flit among potted plants, likely fungus gnats.
If small (aboout 1/8 inch), dark-colored, look like a small moth, hold hairy wings horizontally, and are associated with wet moldy areas indoors instead of being associated with plants (in or out), likely drain flies.
If small (about 1/8 inch), dark-colored or light-colored, long-legged and flit or fly, and are associated with overly wet areas outdoors, could be one of two fungus gnats.
Thanks to morz8 and Jean001: If it was easy to identify believe me I would.they move so fast when disturbed and can be easily pressed down with a finger when idle.I did notice that they have a grey on their wings.From what I googled they look like Bandedwinged Whiteflies? I wish I could post a nice pic here.I do want to thank you both very much for helping me out. I am loosing the battle with them.I did notice that when I moved some of the composting material to the front flower beds I did bring some of those creatures with the composting material.They hoovered around for a couple of days ( I was afraid they could move into the house as the front door is right there) However they dissapeared after a couple of days.Its dry and sunny in the front.Unless they are hatching and any moment I find more...Hope not. Anyways they are not all totally white have some gray on the wings . They behave just like whiteflies , its like snowing when they get disturbed.So I am still not a 100% sure what they are.The treatment to get rid of them is different so I must be sure..Thanks so much..
scarleta, do you think you could catch some of these little b...... in a clear pill bottle or small glass jar? You could then look at them with a magnifying glass and get a good close look at them. Might be easier to identify this way.
You wrote: "I am loosing the battle with them. ... when I moved some of the composting material to the front flower beds I did bring some of those creatures with the composting material."
That rules out whiteflies because whiteflies are pests of live plants; they aren't in or on compost.
In an earlier post, you wrote: "Apparently we have lost [sic] of drainflies in Vancouver because there was/ is so much rain and keeps beeing wet."
Overly wet conditions suggest fungus gnats of some sort. If so, they're a nuisance but nothing to be treated with insectcides of any sort. They will leave when conditions dry a bit.
thanks so much to everyone who responded. I did have a look under magnifying glass and to me it looks like bandedwinged whiteflies??.They have a gray strip on the wings.By the way they are on my rhodo next to compost bin.I had a vine which was so full of them that I had to get rid of it.The vine was about to flower and whenever I shook it , it looked like snow.I first noticed them on the vine which was next to my bin. Then I started to notice them inside my bin? Mind you they may have been there before but I did not notice.I am going to take one or two in a jar ( will try ) and look again.I don't see any hairs ( drainflies have body covered with hair ) Wish me luck I am planning to take the compost out and spread it around so it may dry.I have 3 bins and one is ready to go and that is where I see the problem.They tend to sleep?? In the nooks of the wodden fence and composting bin every mornig I see lots of them in the nooks and whetever I can reach with my finger I take care of..
thanks once more You guys are good.I now have one in a small jar in ( I cought it) I wish you could post it here in a jar. So its grayish, has dark dots on the wings ( when they fly it looks like a line across the wings.Maybe if I could see hair on the wings that would confirm drainfly. IN any case yes they are mostly inside my bin and looks like they are hatching there..O boy...I am going to empty than bin totally and let it dry out.The sun is coming so it will dry the material and the bin.Does the drainfly have black dots on the wings?
Just another thought, if it does happen to turn out to be Drain/Moth flies, I just read somewhere to sprinkle baking soda on top of your compost pile and cover with newspaper. This is supposed to cut down on their numbers. You are in Vancouver B.C. right? Try contacting City Farmer there, if you took them some bugs in a jar, they could probably tell you which bug you have. Google Drain flies, you should be able to get a closeup of what they look like.
Thanks aftermidnight: It was the city farmer that told me that we have lots of drain flies here because of the wet conditions.I now think it must be drainflies because when I emptied one bin ( I have 3 ) they came with the composting material and then they sort of hoover around for a couple of days and then they are not longer seen around only around the bin.The other 2 bins are full but the compost will be ready next spring.I will try the baking soda and also when I rotate them ( I am just drying the one I emptied) I will add some carbon.They recommended brown dry leaves . It seems however that they are not spreading out of the composting bin.Thanks to all of you for helping out.Maybe I will take some in a jar to identify , but when I called they were confident that they are drainflies...
Thanks for that Jean 001. I noticed that when I emptied one bin the flies came with it to my beds , hoovered around for a bit ,but after few days of sun they are gone.I do have to amend my compost material as I am going to transfer it to the now empty bin.Brown leaves is what I was told to add more of. Any other suggestions? Thanks
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