Cherokee Rose
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Comments (4)I'ts way too late this spring for buds, WFIW. Cherokee has always had a lighter green leaf than any other roses I grow (even it's daughter, Fortuniana, has a darker leaf). The current hot spell may be a bit stressful for the current leaves to correct themselves. Can you work on drainage and organic matter in the soil? The biggest Cherokees that I've seen grow in very sandy soils with just bits of organics. Mine lives in clay, but it's on a knoll with as decent drainage as it can get, given it's clay....See MoreClimber like Cherokee rose but 'behaved' and repeat bloomer??
Comments (4)Milieu, I have to come to the defense of your state flower, 'Cherokee Rose' (Rosa laevigata). It is not invasive, and doesn't appear on any state or federal list of invasive species/noxious weeds that I'm aware of. Unfortunately, 'Cherokee Rose' (except for its leaf structure), looks almost identical to, thrives in the same areas, and blooms at roughly the same time as Rosa bracteata, 'McCartney Rose' (aka 'Chickasaw Rose'). 'McCartney Rose' grows MUCH more rampantly than 'Cherokee' (which itself is a robust grower), and has become a problem in some areas of the South. Few people are aware that these are 2 distinct roses; consequently, 'Cherokee' gets the bad rap that only 'McCartney' deserves. Like Rosa multiflora, R. bracteata was once planted extensively by government agencies as a means of erosion control, etc. At present, I don't think any rose species appear on the USDA list of noxious weeds. R. multiflora is listed as noxious by at least one state (maybe more). Incidentally, 'McCartney Rose' is not to be confused with 'The McCartney Rose', the smelly pinkish HT named in honor of Sir Paul. Here is a link that might be useful: Cherokee & McCartney Roses...See MoreCherokee Rose
Comments (4)Paul -- You know it is the Georgia State Flower? They did that because they thought it was a Native Plant -- but of course, it turned out that it was not. The latest theory I've heard is that it likely was carried to the Savannah area in the 18th-Century, in bags of seed rice. (That is, of course, unless you want to consider the theory that it could have been carried to North America in the 15th-Century Chinese Treasure Ships.) The Cherokee Indians are said to have planted the rose in their towns, and to have carried it to Oklahoma when they walked "The Trail of Tears." And I LOVE the suggestion that it may have been the inspiration for barbed wire. All those things are fun. But probably not helpful if you have to fight your way through it to get to the barbecue grill. Jeri...See Morecherokee roses seeds what am i doing wrong
Comments (3)It could be. What you haven't been told is sometimes seeds can take a year or two, sometimes longer, to germinate. Much depends upon the condition of the seed when planted. Yes, you want the containers opened. Think about it. In Nature, the hips fall and rot, exposing the seeds which sit on the ground in the litter mulch. They frequently germinate all by themselves. Or, some critter eats the hip, digesting the pulp and fibers, passing the seeds encapsulated in "guano" where they fall to the ground and germinate. Sometimes, if the conditions have been appropriate and the plant in good shape, they sprout quickly. If the plant has been stressed enough, the seeds dried out long enough and conditions sufficiently unsuitable, they wait. I was sent fresh seed from R. Xanthina two years ago. I planted half last year with no seedlings resulting. I'd transplanted the seedlings surrounding them in the seed table and knew which were neighbors to the Xanthina seed. Suddenly, there were Xanthina seeds germinating in the other seedlings, the second year after planting. This year, I planted the second half of the Xanthina seeds in the tables. There are two seedlings from those seeds right now in the tables. Banksiae seeds are known to usually require two years to germinate. Several years ago, I had one germinate from freshly collected seed after only four months under soil. None of the others germinated before I reused the soil. This year, I planted a large amount of fresh Banksiae seed I collected in the garden. There are three seedlings right now from seed which has been planted only three, nearly four months. Bottom line is, you can set the stage for optimum germination in attempts to stack the deck to get what you want, but they are going to do whatever they decide to do based on a variety of factors. Fortunately, many do as we expect them to. Good luck! Kim...See Morebrenda_near_eno
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