Favorite best scented shrubs for zone 5 or colder
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19 years ago
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Best fragrant roses for zone 5?
Comments (24)Lol, this so many wonderful selections I'm having a hard time picking! I found a 3 gallon America rose at a private nursery, I remembered the name from this thread and it was the only fragrant rose in the lot, so I went for it. It has a lovely salmon pink color that turned out to be a great compromise between the decking and white building. The clematis Perle d' Azur is trained up the wall and the rose went in front of it next to a Clematis Arabella intended to scramble trough the border. What surprised me was how much clay I found about 2 feet down while back digging the bed. I dunked two bags of mushroom compost and mixed it up with two bags of fine gravel and one bag of sand but I'm kind of worried about what will happen to the root a few years down the line? Any predictions? Is this enough amending ? I left the hose on to soak the bush, a small trickle for about 45 mins, and when the bed was over flowing I turned it off and it took about 25 mins for the standing water to drain away. This was after I had replaced about 8'x2'x2' of the old dirt. Anybody with more experience who can give me more insight on how this will play in to it's health? There's a few spots on the leaves that I suspect is the dreaded blackspot. I live inland, due west of Chicago, so not exactly coastal climate but still lots of humidity in the summer. I made sure to clear about a foot between plant and wall and also at some distance from where another rosebush been before, I cleared about 2 feet from the original site but I essentially replaced all the dirt as well. I made sure of sinking the bush level with the dirt in the pot per instructions. As far as I could discern, it's not a grafted plant, I felt up the trunk all the way down the to the ball of dirt and felt no bump. I'm very drawn to the Romantica and English roses and am interested to learn more about the two series, My new Colette is coming in this weekend with a Stormy weather who's supposedly a purple rose. These will be my trial experience before I commit to a full rose garden. I understand ramblers only bloom once, no? How do I know the difference between a rambler and a climber? What is the difference between a Grandiflora and a Wicheriiana? My roses must be of the resilient kind and besides generous amounts of mushroom compost and a good trellis will have to fend for themselves. No spray, no chemicals. I'm staying clear of any grafted stock and no Tea roses. What would be the best US purveyors of either the Romantica or the English series? Is it possible to buy rootstock older than a year trough mail order? Also, can anyone advice me on good online sources for reading up on the different categories ? I'd like to hear from someone who grows the Zepherine Drouhin, Queen of Sweden, or the Polka in zone 5. My priorities are as follows: Repeat bloom, disease resistance, fragrance, cut life, color... God bless and thank you! Kerstin...See MoreHow Do U Overwinter Zone 5 & Colder Roses?
Comments (9)Terry, I've long since changed to hardy shrub type roses that require little if any winter protection. The few hybrid teas I have, have proven their ability to survive with minimal protection. When my garden consisted of all hybrid teas and floribundas I used paper collars around the base and filled them with shredded leaves, compost, soil, and any other protection I could find ( I had over 500 plants). I also built styrofoam boxes over the beds but that's a bit of overkill unless your roses are planted close together in beds designed for that purpose. I even went so far as to build a large unheated poly house over a large part of my back yard over a number of rose beds. Most important is preparing for winter when you plant your bushes. Bud Unions should be planted 4-6 inches below the soil surface and avoid buying cold tender plants. In our zone, even with winter protection, you'll still experience dieback which will require lots of severe pruning each spring. Climbers will tend to be tall bushes unless you bury the canes. Tree roses will have to be buried or pot planted and moved into an unheated garage or shed each winter. All is not doom and gloom. I grow over 400 roses but have chosen the proper types that survive with only shredded oak leaves at their bases....See MoreProlific Rose Shrubs for Zone 5
Comments (14)Hi UncleHippy Welcome to GW and there'll always be plenty of opinions for you to pick from in our responses here. In many cases, you have to decide between easy roses and highly fragrant roses, particularly if you like the "classic" rose shape (those are hybrid tea roses). Since you're asking about Knockout and EE roses, you know that these are more open flower shapes and indeed good for beginners. They should both be fine in the amount of sun you describe and equally easy to grow. In terms of impressiveness, I'd go with Kashmir. It has been thickly covered in blooms in a partly sunny spot in my yard, much better than my Double Knockout. Know that neither of these is consistently a "fire engine" red color - red as a gardening color varies a lot, and both of these tend toward the crimson side of the color scheme, though much redder than roses that are called hot pink. I agree with Rick (predfern) that your best chance for easy roses that have some fragrance are the David Austin roses. There are some drop-dead gorgeous "red" Austins that tend toward the purple side of things - Munstead Wood, Darcey Bussell, and The Prince are all easy and compact good bloomers for me. The Austins that tend more like red (but none are remotely fire engine red) like Tess of the D'Ubervilles or maybe Tradescant are less frequent bloomers for me than the ones I listed in the purple range. The hardiness of Austins is good for most zone 5 regions, but it can vary depending on the part of the country you're in - the east coast gets more trouble with blackspot that can weaken a rose if severe, and that might lead you toward roses like Kashmir more often. If you let us know the general region where you live we can help more with that. One compromise that you could consider about easy vs. fragrant roses is to plant low plants of frequent bloomers (like Kashmir) and then put a few more fragrant but stingier ones behind them (or between) so you get your hit of fragrance that way. It depends on how much room you have. Bottom line though is not to be scared of planting roses and don't let people tell you they need fancy care or expensive food or spraying if you don't want it. The roses you describe should be tough for a zone 5 winter and not need much care, though every rose needs dead wood cut out of it and some trimming at least once a year (nothing including perennials and grass is "no-care" in a garden). Have fun Cynthia...See MoreZone 5 rose shrubs
Comments (103)This is such a great concept Sam. it's wonderful to imagine all these nutrients being added to the soil and through foliar feeding. A single teaspoon (1 gram) of rich garden soil can hold up to one billion bacteria, several yards of fungal filaments, several thousand protozoa, and scores of nematodes, according to Kathy Merrifield, a retired nematologist at Oregon State University. Most of these creatures are exceedingly small; earthworms and millipedes are giants, in comparison. Each has a role in the secret life of soil. http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/secret-life-soil-0...See Morejamlover
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