Ok, The clump of daisy has been spoken for - but I have a LOT more so if anyone is interested in some please let me know Thanks and happy gardening, Liz

I'm not sure what you mean with "get all the roots". Did you cut them with your spade? Did you not dig deep enough? Did they break when you moved the plant? I transplanted a few large clumps of Becky this spring. In the dividing process, pieces came off, some with just a piece of root and a leaf or two. I planted the extra bits anyway, and they took off just fine. Becky is one tough lady, probably one of my top five favorite perennials. The only thing she doesn't like is wet feet. Make sure she's in well-draining soil.

Sorry I didn't see your response. I resurrected this thread and will append rather than start a new one. A consultation with the master gardener at the ext ofc confirmed essentially what you and other poster said. Thank you, hard to keep track of threads I start or in which I participate sometimes. Today I just got done with pulling all the plant up (in sections, came right out, got all the roots with soil clinging to them, in the kraft trash bag they went. Maybe I should have put it in the regular trash because city will compost what's in the kraft bag, too late to worry about that now, hope it cooks high enough not to contaminate somebody else's soil. Then I proceeded to dig as much soil out as I could. I have to fight tree roots there and other plants, and did a pretty sloppy job of it. All in all, I filled a kitty litter bucket with damp soil (rained again), heavy, and carried and dumped where the gutters need fixing. Took out as much of the loose soil that was left, hauled and dumped that. Then I found a half bag of top soil and dumped that in the hole, will wait for it to settle in and perhaps add some peat, compost, pearlite, whatever you recommend at some point or potting soil. I wish there was something I could drench the area with that won't ruin my other plants (poppy nearby looked iffy but it's that time of year). The shasta next to it looks fine so far. Also an annual lupin nearby won't bloom prolly because it doesn't get enough sun plus this has not been a good year to sow seeds direct or any other way, limited success w/seeds this year. But the lupin does not look diseased nor do a clump of lilies fairly close by but could show up later with any of the rest of it. I will let it lie fallow over the winter but would sure like to get something in there in the spring. Otherwise, I did the best I could under the circumstances. Hope I didn't gloss over something else you said; you are great to help people w/your expertise.

Pretty pic, rouge! Unfortunately for me, I have a horrible problem with oriental beetles. They decimate my daisies, including my Beckys, as well as daylilies and echinacea. The daylily damage isn't so bad, since they don't seem to attack the buds and the flowers are only here for one day, but on the other two plants the beetles attack the buds as well as the blooms, which as a result are always brown, eaten, and ratty. I would love to have the beautiful blooms in the photo above! Dee