Jeri, thank you for the vote of confidence, but I am not sure I have any kind of definitive answer. I think asking Rogue Valley is a good idea since they are in the Willamette Valley. Buying that many of one rose might be problematic, unless it is Iceberg, as that's pretty popular. How tall do you want these roses to be? If you're talking about Iceberg, that's not very tall. I'm not clear on what you're wanting there. Is this for an edging? Another thought is you might look at Darlow's Enigma; it is trouble free and blooms a lot. It can be grown as a shrub but it's very tall. I think the moschata and rugosa ideas are worth thinking about. I live considerably north of you, in the Puget Sound area, so I am not sure if your seasons are as grey as here - you certainly get a lot of rain - but personally, just my opinion, if I were going to put in a 40 foot hedge like that, I'd use Jeri's suggestion of roses intermixed with some evergreen shrubs and make sure that whatever roses I used had some winter color through hips or interesting structure. I'm going more and more to roses with hips so there will be more to my roses than just a short summer bloom. Your season is probably longer than mine, though. :) The other thought I had is that if you do go with just roses, I'd be careful that the blooms didn't turn brown and hang on, brown goo. But maybe that's not something that bugs you like it does me. The main thing I'd want to know is what you're using this for - an edging, or a meandering hedge through an open field, or as a windbreak? Truthfully, if it is just for something to look at I'd think about what it will look like in the fall, winter and early spring. Ooh, I wrote a lot; I hope there's something helpful in all of this! Good luck, it will be fun to hear what you do!

Please tell us why you like this rose, English Elegance. What I saw on HMF wasn't very encouraging. What is it that is special that makes you want to replace one that died for you? Thanks Kathy Here is a link that might be useful: Comments re English Elegance on HMF

Even if you were to look for the vector mites at this time of the years, your odds of seeing them are really slight; population counts done next 'door' to Nebraska showed almost no mites on RRD sick multiflora until late summer when populations surged in late August and September. I agree that they are sick with RRD/RRv. Once I saw similar sick growth coming back in spring after a severe pruning in March. All the canes and leaves ....the whole new growth was reddish magenta and never changed to any shade of green. Only thing normal was the petal color on the blooms even though the sepals were red magenta. IF we knew parentage of roses, we might be able to attach symptoms to species in parentage. It is so interesting to see this symptom again. And I am so sorry to say that and wish that it had never happened to anyone. I have no idea why the development of the green doesn't happen sometimes. We've gotten used to that development being slow, but look at the LENGTH of those canes. WOW! Why it's happening....I haven't seen anything in plant literature to even begin to explain it. When you dig them out, be sure to get all the roots. Just like the topsides of the plants, the roots are going to be excessive growers. Thank you for posting these. Ann

Altorama, Edmond Proust is absolutely divine! Melissa my favorite class of roses are the Hybrid Chinas and Gallicas. They do awesome here, and are a long awaited arrival in Spring. I love some of the other European roses as well, Ispahan does awesome!, Ramblers do quite well, as do polyantha's. Portlands are a mixed bag. Actually they are all kinda a mixed bag. Even to the Teas, and Chinas. Noisettes so fine, but it takes a while to get going. I did actually take a risk, after losing so many Teas and Chinas to our Freeze thaw in Spring, and Order some more Teas from ARE sale. I figured Mme. Lombard does so well here there's got to be others. I plan to put them up front where more full Sun is and see how that does them. But the ones I lost were in morning sun, so we shall see. Wish me luck. I got one bloom from my new Mrs. Dudley Cross and fell in love! I have to refrain myself from ordering more until I get through the Winter with these. I figured to order them bigger should help them too. My Marie Van Houte barely made it. All her old canes died, but she threw up three new ones, before they did. I hope she builds some size and does better this Winter..I'm beginning to think the river maybe some reason to bring in more cold. What do y'all think? It is less than a mile from my house, I am up river though. That and my exact location. On the map I was 7b before it changed a few years ago..I'm still in a pocket that goes up north on the zone map..different zones on each side, lol. Edited to add the Rugosa, Damasks, mostly, Spinosissima's, and Hybrid musk's do well here too. Now the roses in origin of Lady Penzance didn't care for my humidity, I believe, and died. Though Father Hugo does well, and Harrison's Yellow does ok, but has been having die back since I put him in the ground. He did great in a pot, and I told him to straighten up or he's going back in it! That's all I can think of for now. I don't grow many modern's , since meeting the OGR, they stole my heart!