Hosta's growth under performing
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Hostas Under Trees
Comments (47)Maple trees are like black walnuts in the regard that they are alleopathic (self weeding), which may account for some of the problem growing certain plants under them, especially grass. They are also very surface rooted, water and nutrient hogs, and the roots will grow up into any layer of mulch or soil you put over the feeder roots. Also, the feeder roots are not really close to the tree, where the huge support roots tend to stick out above the ground. They are at and beyond the drip line (where the ends of the branches are--if you read any bag of tree fertilizer directions it always tells you to put tree food around the tree at the drip line, not close to the trunk). If you plant fairly close to the trunk you'll avoid the fine feeder root problem. I've never had a problem digging there. I've had hostas growing inside the drip line of my big Norway Chrimson King maple for some 25 years. They don't get huge, as they would in a bed with plenty of running room, but they hold their own and look good. I removed the grass a long time ago around this old tree as it was impossible to mow around it due to the huge surface roots, and let the native violets come up around it as ground cover with some ajuga. Recently, in addition to the hostas, a colony of rudbeckias has moved in there, and they are flourishing. There are also coral bells, nandinas, dwarf crape myrtles, ground cover sedums, French strawberries, a forsythia, an old dogwood. clematis, and a mixed perennial bed within reach of those greedy roots that are all thriving. So you see, it is possible to grow things under a maple, if you pick the right plants. I give supplimental water in the hot dry summer months but I never fertilize anything under there. Now, a giant hackberry in the woods garden......that is another story. The jury is still out on that one but it appears even more alleopathic than the black walnut with roots even more aggressive than the maple and its thick canopy prevents rain from reaching the ground. Time will tell on the new bed I'm trying in this area. I know it doesn't like veriegated kerria under there, I'm going to have to move this little shrub that has been struggling for the last few years in its shade. It isn't going to overcome the odds....See MoreThe performance of mass produced hosta
Comments (3)You know, Jeff--I wonder if it isn't what was suggested on another thread, the fact that those who do 'mass produce' for such stores are using so many hormones and so much fertilizer to stimulate instant gratification and numbers of plants, that the end result is in a plant that cannot sustain itself on the long haul! Sort of like grass in the shade! If too much fertilizer is used or the same amount used on a lawn in more sun, it forces the grass to rapidly grow but it cannot maintain it's new growth because the roots are shallow and the lower light not able to provide the plant enough chlorophyll to keep it going!! In shade lawns, less is more when it comes to fertilizer, I've learned! Perhaps it is also true with hosta!! I think I recall this discussed a few years ago, on a topic that covered the pros and cons of using commercial fertilizers and growth hormones on hosta, specifically!!!...See MoreExperiment under a Locust tree - Hostas for a sunny area
Comments (8)That's a lovely garden, Vivian. I think most of the ones you chose ought to do ok there. I used to have Sun Power in a fair bit of sun on the side of my house and it fried badly...although I think it was likely from the heat bouncing off the siding. My Stained Glass has some rumply leaves mixed in which are from cold damage in the Spring. Happens to it every year, pretty much. Since you asked, here is a pic of one of mine grown in more sun. Actually it only gets a few hours late morning to lunch but it does not like it. So definitely don't plant Elegans in the sun!...See MoreHOSTAS FOR UNDER TREE IN LOUISIANA (B.R.)
Comments (33)Great photos. We can identify some if you would like us to try. I see what I think is Francee and two I think are u. albomarginata. Others might be able to name others. If you want us to try that, start a new post with ID or NOID in the subject line. Give us a big photo of your hosta and only put two per post. (It gets confusing when there are more than two varieties in a post.) I, too, have had good luck with Hallson's. I also like Land of the Giants and Green Mountain. I've always heard great things about Naylor Creek. Here's a link to a thread we did a couple of years ago, entitled "where to buy hosta". Pay attention to the places that are recommended by more than two people. http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1963531/where-to-buy-hosta?n=51 bk...See Moregenieo
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