Hydrangeas for zone 10, strong sun- Mathilda Gutges suffering.
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Best Hydrangea for zone 5 w/full sun?
Comments (3)It can be. Here are a few thoughts. 1. To get and maintain purples, your soil has to be in a narrow layer of soil pH that is difficult ��"but not impossible- to achieve when planted on the ground. Add garden lime per label directions if your soil is already acidic. If your soil pH is already alkaline, add garden Sulphur, green sand, iron sulfate or aluminum sulfate per label directions. Your own soil will govern how well and which shades of purple you can get when you amend. 2. It is easier to control soil pH when you grow them in containers. In the ground, you could end up with purple sections in the bush⦠with other areas with a slightly different color (blue/pink) or shade of purple if some of the roots do not absorb the necessary minerals in the same amounts as other roots. 3. Named varieties with the word "purple" will produce good and deep purples. Glowing Embers, Enziandom, Purple Tiers, Purple Passion, Royal Purple, Nightingale, Mathilda Gutges, Marechal Foch and Merritt Supreme can give you nice purples. Enziandom leaves turn nice colors at the end of the growing season. Nightingale produces a lot of bloomage per stem. The named varieties given above produce blooms only in the Spring. 4. Colored re-blooming hydrangeas can also be useful but, they will not necessarily give the deep purples of the above named varieties. Example: the Endless Summer Series or the Forever and Ever Series. The good thing about rebloomers is that you get blooms at multiple times throughout the growing season and, as each set of blooms opens, you can see the result of changes to the soil pH, compared to the previous set of blooms. If new blooms in May were pink and if new blooms in June-July were blue, that means you have amended too much and need to tweak the soil pH in the opposite direction. So, it may take less time to get the purple shade that you/she want if you have colored rebloomers. 5. You can choose from many hydrangea macrophyllas or serratas but you will need to keep and eye on their winter hardiness (you are in Z5). Most if not all will need winter protection if planted outside in the ground. If planted in a container, you will need to bring the container into the garage or similar place during the winter months and water it once every week or once every two weeks. 6. Full sun exposure⦠it may cause the color not to be as deep as it could be because the sun may bleach the blooms a bit. Hydrangeas must have afternoon shade (or the leaves will suffer from too much sun) here but, your not-as-strong summer sun in NY may allow you to grow them in full sun. If no one in your zone & location comments, I would drive around looking for similar colored (blue/pink/purple) hydrangeas and see where they were planted (sun-wise) and if they had winter protection. Luis...See MoreForce Hydrangeas to go dormant?
Comments (26)I'm in Drayton Valley, AB, Canada (central AB bit SW of Edmonton). It will be getting to be -34C tonight. This is the second cold blast we got (polar vortex?) this winter so far. Then it will be getting mild again soon. I think there is a limited choice of plants that will grow here. We are officially zone 2 Canadian hardiness. It can get much colder here. Last winter came in brutal....burning bushes got severe dieback after being here 3 years....winter came in with brutal winds and -25C right at the beginning and shocked the borderline hardy plants. However, I do have a zone 5 Royal Purple smokebush I completely cover with snow and it does well....only the third year coming up and had small dieback the first winter. I've learned to cover pretty much everything but the natives (spruce trees, pines, willows, etc). So tempting to try borderline hardy plants here due to lack of choice. Sorry for hijacking thread. :) And thank you gardengal for the info. Can't blame me for trying, lol. However, I do have the Explorer roses (John Davis) and they survived last winter beautifully, even with that cold shock first thing. Truly zone 2 roses, and they bloomed crazy all summer. And am trying hydrangeas too. Annabelle grows fine, and getting Pee Gee this year. Should be fine from what I heard. But SOOOO tempted by the big leafs.........See MoreNew 2015 hydrangea cultivars?
Comments (57)Uneven soil pH zones can give amazing hydranges color effects! Especially with certain hydrangea. Since the old 'Mathilda Gutges' is very similar or identical to LA Dreaming I can tell you how to get this the multicolor effect Reliably ... and my guess is that this is what convinced the grower that LA Dreaming is a reliable multicolor. Below is my 5 gallon tub grown 'Mathlida Gutges' produced in Miracle Gro Moisture Control soil. I potted in early Fall the year before and planted it in a new yard the next Spring with acidic soil. In a major house move 1.5 years ago this soil in fact shifted ALL my transfer tub planted blue hydrangea still in pots to solid rich pink, even a 'Blue Wave' lacecap! I purchased the soil from Costco because it sells for $9.95 for 55 qt at bags (Spring to early Summer).. To get this effect in YOUR hydrangea grow it in a production pot with standard e.g Miracle Gro Mositure Control potting soil. The pH is adjusted for bedding plants so is near to neutral. As the hydrangea needs transfering, plant in soil not pH adjusted (acidic here on the PNW) or bump up to an oversized pot with acidic soil compounded for conifers or azalea. As the pH non uniformly penetrates the established root ball you get this effect. It is uneven because new roots grow into a new soil pH and roots well within the root ball are less effected. For undisturbed plants growing in the yard in acidic soil use a cup to quite unevenly spread "lines" of dolomite lime in the leaf drip zone during fall. It can yield this effect for a few years until the pH becomes homogenous. 'Mathlida Gutges' loves to give this effect with soil transfer. I purchased a "blue" Bay City cross of it called 'Galilee' from a gift flower greenhouse sale table with past prime flowers. I bumped up the plant to a tub and the next year it threw a range of neat light to dark blue colors. Each head was on soild color If you push the blue effect too? far with 'Mathllda Gutges ... get happy. With already acidic soil, one standard aluminum sulphate treat gave this effect, which stayed unchanged for 10 years. We were Infamous on the street and called the "Hydrangea House". We left the two deep blue 'Mathlida Gutges" on either side of the White arch. And our multicolored plant above was taken as a division from the right side one. Hydrangea Plus grower calls this old florist variety "The Chamelon". The stems can be weepy with the heavy flower load until it gets well established. This is a small cutting past prime 'Mathlida Gutges' grown in the same potting soil above. There's a range of pink flower potentials shown within this plant. Whatever color result you get you can't lose. Think you might already have an incorrectly or unlabeled 'Mathlida Gutges' already? My florets always have that very light colored tiny "eye spot" in the center. Many of my other hydrangea do not. The flowers starts light greenish or white color in the center until they open....See MoreLA Dreamin hydrangeas aren't growing upright
Comments (28)Plant patent for 'Lindsey Ann' = LA Dreamin' From a Ball Hort publication: “My son and I noticed an interesting Hydrangea in a neighbor’s yard and watched it over a few years. We were attracted to its stunning blue color and the fact that it also displayed pink, purple and mauve colors in between. The blooms lasted well into the Fall and the plant survived our harsh Michigan Winters. We asked the neighbor if we could take cuttings off the plant. The following year, we took our first cuttings of what would become L.A. Dreamin’. John McDonough, our BOS rep, was attracted to our Hydrangea and started asking us about it. Now we are partnering with Ball to spread this wonderful Hydrangea further. The L.A. Dreamin’ name comes from Macrophylla Lindsey Ann, a tribute to my late daughter and the life that we were blessed with for 11 years.” – John Bakale, Michigan Evergreen Nursery, West Olive, MI L.A. Dreamin’ PPAF Height: 5 ft. (1.5 m) Spread: 6 ft. (1.8 m) Zones: 5 to 10 The first Mophead that shows pink, blue and bicolor blooms without special treatment A real standout in the crowded Hydrangea market PPAF for Next Generation 'SAXREBII' = Poppet Info from the same Ball PDF on Next Gen Poppet: Poppet ‘SAXREBII’ PPAF Height: 3 ft. (0.9 m) Spread: 3 ft. (0.9 m) Zones: 5 to 9 Smaller flowers, but lots of them! Cream-colored eye sets off deep pink petals. For a change…acidic soil produces dark blue to purple blooms. Compact habit for low-growing shrub. So, though both marketed by Ball Horticultural, not the same....See MoreMelissa.H
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