Wow Connie! You have some setup going, that's impressive. I'll comment on the ones I know about. I grew Vintage Visalia in the mtns but it never got taller than 4 feet up there with a 3 month growing season and the deer kept eating on it. It was the only large rose I had that last the 13 years were there, through all the snows I did no winter protection either. I've seen the rose bush at the nursery, it's huge, it stands about 8' tall or so. I don't care what HMF says, when I went down there to get another for this house and saw how large that rose gets I decided I wouldn't have the room for that one after all, LOL* Sequoia Ballet is another I wanted to get and was dissuaded from doing so last spring as a new rose. It had a great growing season even with our weeks of 100's and the rose bush they grow the cuttings off of is gorgeous and easily 5'tall and it was still immature. I got one in Oct after the manager admitted then it's a terrific rose, she was very impressed by how vigorously it grew even in the heat. In two months of growth this rose ended Dec 17"Tx19"Wide. Thanks To Sue is slow growing for me, I had it in a bad place the first fall and it was one of the last I transplanted last spring. I have it in full sun now and in cooler weather the roses are more an apricot and hotter weather they're yellow. It has unusual growing shape and leaves and as the plant matures then it holds the blooms up better. The foliage is very pretty on this rose. I ended the first full year with the rose at 18"Tx40"Wide. I was looking to replace two roses in front of my dining room in back of my other minis and I love the Hybrid Bracteatas, I asked and the manager reaffirmed that Precious Dream and Out Of The Night will both be excellent roses. The latter had 4 fat buds that tried blooming end of Dec but it was just too cold by then and the roses aren't very nice looking. Tells me though this will be another of my roses that should go all the way through on milder years. These should be in the neighborhood of between 2 and 3' tall depending on your season. I planted them also in Oct. Not a whole lot of info but a little more for you. Leslie

The main problem we have had with MZ has been bulbs labeled wrongly...but oh what bulbs they be! I got mine planted today. Most were fine but the Limona had a rotten bud under a few layers, Had to cut it away and clean it out, as well as a small rotten spot there on the bottom plate. I lost two babies that were just getting going when I cut out the rotten places, but what is left of the bulb looks just fine now. I probably lost 3 layers off it and it is still huge!

Nice root systems with divisions of mature plants attached to them. ===>>> really??? division.. rather than potted or uncut plant ??? if so.. there is no damage to complain if ... in the day ... they used to snip off the leaves.. and send.. what looks like rooted grocery store plants ... you bought future potential .... and you got it ... your excitement.. will be at reflush ... i think you peeps have to be careful.. between comparing a potted ... or uncut full plant ... with fresh cut divisions ... and adjust your expectation accordingly ... a fresh cut division.. is all about buying.. a mature ROOT MASS ... as compared to what you can jam into a 2.25 inch pot ... as to the shipper... what can i say.. they got you a live plant ... besides complaining ... which its too late.. since you took them out of the package ... what are your damages??? you dont like a couple leaves??? you got a great haul.. ken

And, you are going to love Fujibotan for more reasons than one. It is known for its double flowers, which are not fragrant. However, it is also a very pretty plant. I've really enjoyed having it in my garden. No problems with slugs at all. The flower scapes are extremely tall, and I had to clip them together like a teepee, and this being their first year blooming for me, I was excited to see they really do have doubled flowers. In fact, some of the first blooms looked to be TRIPLE. But, let's just be happy with the pale lavender double flowers. And 5 nice scapes. On Stage is always a favorite, beautiful leaf pattern, and the color is fantastic.....my favorite kind of variegation.