True 'Full Sun' Perennials for Very North Florida (I'm begging!)
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What is full sun?
Comments (10)when i did roses.. 8 hours was considered full sun ... some here suggest only six ... so ... in other words.. a rose need 8 hours of sun.. to produce the energy .. to be vigorous enough to make those huge flowers .. if you planted one in less sun .... you would get less flowers.. and probably smaller flowers .. decreasing with the level of light ... and.. of course ... dusk and dawn sun is weak ... so if that is all available.. it would not be great ... that is just about producing the energy/food it needs ... with me so far ... now.. as you suspect... sun in the heat of the day ... high noon thru 4 ... plus more since you are so far south ... is not a sun issue ... that is more about whether any given plant.. can pump enough water to be able to bear the heat ... most plants perspire.. or sweat ... and if in full sun.. in high heat.. they will wilt ... but that is a soil/water issue .. more than a sun tolerant plants ability to take the sun ... [though of course, if you throw a shade plant in sun .... it will sun burn .. which is a sun issue .. all that said.. the only option to full sun is called EITHER .... part shade .. or part sun ... so that is the end of the lesson ... but without you providing us a list of suggested plants.. its really hard to give you specific info on where to plant them ... a good rule of thumb.. is to protect anything from the hottest part of the day ... IF YOU CAN ... while still getting them enough sun ... so they can tolerate the water and heat issues ... rather than the sun specifically ... hope that gives you a better idea of what you are dealing with ken...See MoreIdeas? Replacing 3 roses w/perennial/shrub needing less sun
Comments (11)It sounds like a lot of sun for a true shade plant; frankly I'm surprised the roses aren't doing better than they are, because that's as much sun as any rose ever gets in my yard! However, I have to agree with Ceterum about the hardy geranium. I would go with Jolly Bee instead of 'Rozanne', which has been tougher and a better blue color. It never stops blooming. Heucheras with bright or intense foliage - like Peach Melba or Obsidian - would make great companions. Another option would be to try more shade-tolerant roses before giving up. Polyanthas would be at the top of that list. My family and I love 'Gruss an Aachen' (essentially a floribunda), and although some people have trouble with black spot on it, this may be more related to the clone or rootstock or some other factor. It's never gotten a disease it couldn't quickly recover from in my experience with it in Minnesota, even where it got less than three hours' direct sunlight and had claustrophobic companion plantings of hostas. My original plant was probably grafted on 'Manettii' and I've grown a number from cuttings of this version; a second came from Pickering and has done very well, too....See Morerecommendations for japanese maple in full sun- zone 9
Comments (42)@jlcjlr - “decided to try the Fireglow…I’ll be planting one in full sun and one in afternoon shade”. That was back in 2010…13 years ago…curious to know how your Fireglow JM’s are doing now? I’m considering a Fireglow for my property, but I don’t have any mature trees so it would be getting full sun the majority of the day in zone 7A in the mid-Atlantic region. Worried that the leaves would scorch. Also, how is the fall color on them? I’m looking for really bright scarlet red fall color…the kind of red that stops you in your tracks with the sun setting behind it! Thanks…would love to get an update!...See MoreGood Salvias for North Florida
Comments (11)Hey JR. We're probably in pretty similar climates so what works for me should work for you. It isn't too late to start seeds at least of the annual coccineas. All of them do well and as someone said will reseed forever. My favorite salvias are guarnitica black and blue, leucantha "Santa Barbara" (the all purple coloring is much prettier than the regular), indigo spires (excellent!), madrensis (yellow, fall bloomer), and rosebud (can't remember the botanical name). Anthony Parker is gorgeous but very big, not as pretty as Santa Barbara, and blooms during the same period. Argentine Skies was too pale for my taste and bloomed sparingly. Limelight never bloomed but it is getting a second year. Purple Majesty is a beautiful color but was really tall and kind of weedy looking to me. I'm trying salvia staminea this year for the first time and can't wait to see how it does! If I had plenty of room I'd have them all but with limited space I'd choose black and blue, indigo spires, Santa Barbara, madrensis, and rosebud, pretty much in that order. Almost forgot, May Night is pretty but has to be deadheaded to keep it going. Victoria has performed better for me. Hope that helps!...See Moreleahrenee1
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