Connie (and all others) I can agree with you in all respects except one. I have had this rose for over 30 years, and the oldtimer I got a cutting from had it many years before that. Probably more than 30 years. If I remember correctly, he said he got his cutting from a very old home in the country in SE Louisiana. My pass time is mounting and growing orchids, bromiliads and elkhorn on cypress driftwood. Before hurricane Katrina I had hundreds and lost most. Now I have recovered to nearly 100. This rose (rambler?) that I have discussed here is my only rose so I guess that makes puts me in pre-K knowledge wise. All the help and suggestions have been appreciated. I never knew there we so many roses in my class, that is, thornless, cluster bloom, 7 leaf, pink, etc. I have a picture from about 10 years ago from my backyard in New Orleans, and the rose covers the fence, about 40 feet across, and by the time of Katrina it was near 60 feet across. The fence was blown over, so quite a pruning had to be done. With age, it grows to quite a size. I now live on the water in coastal Mississippi. The only reason I continued to start cuttings and keep a rose is because it is thornless. If I understood what I read about 'peggy martin' the rambler owned by that person had no prior name, so it was named after her in 1989? If that is correct, then I guess I could have the same one. What are your thought on this?

Your rose looks similar to a rose in the Sacramento Cemetery, our found rose, "Dr Peck's 12th Avenue Smoothie" is thornless, once blooming. Very fragrant. This found rose is thought to be the same as the Charles Lawson in commerce. Below is a link to a photo I took in the cemetery a few years ago. I liked this rose so much that I propagated it and planted it in my yard even though it is a once bloomer. It is quite vigorous and now takes up the back corner along the fence. Here is a link that might be useful: Dr Peck's 12th Ave Smoothie/Charles Lawson

Jackie, if you're still following this thread, here is a photo I found of reddish new growth on the mature plant that doesn't belong to me; this photo dates to August of last year, so the red cast to new leaves isn't only in spring, although it may be more likely then: That is about as red as I see anything on the plant itself. I did see some of this reddish new growth on the plants I rooted from cuttings this spring, but now the larger of my plants is putting out lots of leaves that are green from the start: Something I meant to ask about is the reddish stamens. My flowers pretty much always have a bright red tinge to the stamens, but someone familiar with 'Pax' said they didn't think that was characteristic of the plant. In the first photo you posted, it does look a bit like the stamens are red, but I'm not sure if that's just the lighting in the photo, or if your flowers normally have red stamens. Thanks, Virginia

In zone 7 your best bet is to find a nice sunny spot in the garden and plant it. It will do fine for you with little or no protection during the winter if it's in the ground. If you leave it in a pot you'll have to winter protect it or garage it for winter. If you can't get it outside and plant it yet just keep it evenly moist but not soggy wet and in a sunny window until you can take it outside. When the the weather warms up start taking it outside during the day and back inside at night for a while to get it used to being outside. When you can start digging in the ground go ahead and plant it out.