Flowering Carpet & Lavender Simplicity Roses

17 years ago

Does anyone grow the white flowering carpet roses? Are they really disease resistant here? Has anyone seen them anywhere now? In addition, I was looking at the J&P Lavender Simplicity but I don't want to have to spray will these be ok without spray or will they loose too many of their leaves?

I am also looking for a particularly spectacular disease resistant rose to sprawl across a 10 foot section of fence, It is on the southeastern corner of the house (more east than south) so it gets a good amount of sun. It is also about midway down a slope so it may have problems with water running off. I would prefer in not to be pink, but would rather have spectacular pink then mediocre some other color. I just seem to have a lot of pink roses vs other colors. If it is not a repeat bloomer maybe a combo with a clematis or something so I could have more bloom? I have been tied up with other stuff lately and have missed you guys, but I have been afraid to come to the site for fear of starting too many new projects in my mind. We got a fence installed this winter so now I have all these new places screaming to be planted.

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sugarhill
17 years ago
Hey Kathy, long time no hear from you.

I'm not a rose expert, but climbing Don Juan (red) does particulary well in the Atlanta humidity and so does climbing New Dawn (pink). The rose guy at Hastings recommended both to me years ago. I got the New Dawn. It never did really well for me because even my sunniest spot didn't have enough sun, but even so it grew to make a good show along a fence. I never tried Don Juan.
dangsr2
17 years ago
Kathy, WE have a beautiful climbing rose on a trelles in front of our house. It has runners on it now that are 15 ft. or more long, and is just beginning to bloom, and will soon be covered with small rich yellow blooms. If I knew how to send pix,I would. I took some beauties of it last year in full bloom. Try the yellow I think you would like it . DAN>
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Paso, I would say don't be too concerned. Whenever designing either you either stick with masses of standard colors for strong statement in simplicity or you mix in a haromony other colors. There are so many ways to design its limitless. Personal taste will be different among anyone as well. Masses of reds are done all the time with roses around my area and done quite effectively. The trick is to use other plants in the areas you have left that will compliment in color the house and roses but will not replicate either of them. Use blue foliage or dark foliage plants. Ornamental grasses can help well because there are many blue colored ones that will also add a relaxed textural beauty to the rigid mass of red. A Russian sage has bluish foliage and blue flowers and mixes well with red rose masses. I don't know your zone but you could even plant white variegated miscanthus such as Rigoletto to offet the colors. You need bold to go with the bold, don't mix too many colors in remaining areas you have left or they will be lost and clash against the roses. good luck!
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OK, I went out and inspected some more this evening. I found quite a few small new terminal flowerbuds, so I think I'm going to get a flush of blooms soon. These little buds are really getting sucked by aphids (and I saw a few brown beetles or weevils, too), so I sprayed all the shrubs with an Ortho systemic spray. I noticed that on the shrub that flowers well, the blooms come in groups of three to five. On the shrubs that aborted the buds, you can see where a bud used to be, and one or more of the three to five stems in that cluster just kept growing and sort of turned into branch growth rather than a flower stem. This may explain why the good bloomer is shorter -- it's stems turned into flowers instead of morphing into more vegetative growth. At first glance, it might look like just a bunch of blind shoots, but I think these shoots had flowerbuds on them, but the buds withered and then the shoots just kept on growing upward. I don't know if that's possible, but that's what it looks like to me. Anyway, I was going to cut their height back tonight, but when I saw quite a few flowerbuds that weren't falling off, I decided I'd better let this flush bloom and then cut them back. I think what happened is that my spring flush tried to happen, but some deficiency, either in water or nutrients, caused all the flowerbuds to abort, so they just kept producing more vegetative growth. Now they're getting ready for a summer flush and perhaps that mysterious deficiency is not so bad now, and they're going to bloom. They are definitely getting more water now than they did earlier in the spring. I didn't turn on the sprinkler system until late April, and it was a dry spring. But then again, I've had some wet springs in the past six years, and they've never bloomed well even then. I'm betting on some kind of mineral or nutrient deficiency. I think I'll need a more comprehensive soil test than the do-it-yourself one I tried this spring. I can send a sample to the local extension for testing. Anyway, if I can figure out what deficiency is causing weakness in a joint where the the flowerbud attaches to the stem, perhaps I can save the spring flush from fall off next year and I'll get to see these roses in all their intended glory. Well, a guy can think big, right? :-)
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The BS pressure in CT is very high--the high humidity makes it very easy for the spores to germinate, as it often takes a long time for the leaves to dry off. I've seen some BS on Fragrant Lavender Simplicity at the end of the season, after I've stopped spraying, so I doubt the leaves will be clean without spraying. But, it may be one of the better choices in this color.
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Kathy Bochonko
Original Author
17 years ago
I will look into Don Juan, I think it is an option although it may get too tall for my fence, it is just at split rail 4 ft fence. I read on Wayside Gardens' site that Don Juan is excellent paired with Full Sail which is supposed to be good in the south and have awesome fragrance. Anyone grow that one here? Can it survive without chemicals or will it be plagued with black spot?

Dan I would love to know what the yellow rose is that you are referring to.
girlgroupgirl
17 years ago
Here's the link I always send to folks. Jean's list has never failed me. Any carpet rose I've tried has failed me, ;)

http://www.ars.org/About_Roses/health_no%20spray.htm
buford
17 years ago
I have Don Juan, it gets up to about 6 fee tall, but can easily be trained on a split rail fence. It does get black spot, I spray regularly so it's hard form me to judge how bad it would be if I didn't spray.

I've paired it with Sombrieul, which is a white damask climbing rose.

I think Dan's rose may be a Lady Banks from the description. They are nice, but I think they only bloom once in the spring.
Kathy Bochonko
Original Author
17 years ago
Yes buford, it probably is a Lady Banks, I have one of those and it would be too big for the area I want this one, I am also hoping for a repeat bloomer.

GGG, I have Jean's no Spray list and noticed that there are only a few climbers on it. Although I guess a "rambler" would probably be okay as well for the fence. I thought the Lavender Simplicity is fairly new, isn't it? (so it wouldn't be on the list.) The carpet roses that failed for you--was it blackspot or something else? BTW the yellow rose that I received from you at a trade in 2005 is doing nicely. I remember you told me it would get quite large eventually, do recall the one I mean? You don't know the name do you? You said the original came from someone named Henrietta maybe? The blooms are beautiful.
girlgroupgirl
17 years ago
Hi Kathy:
I have the rose Mozart, which doesn't bloom much beyond the first flush, but it's a rambler that would work well on fencing. It doesn't grow too tall, although it gets BS. You can also just plant a clematis or other vining plant (potato vine, yellow climbing dicentra) so that it covers the leafless rose up. I do that quite a bit (or am trying to!).

The yellow rose came from somewhere like Parks,Wayside or somewhere originally it was their own rose called gold something or other. It's never been sold anywhere else. Yes, my friend Henrietta give her to me. I need to go get some more, I had her strike a whole lot of cuttings. Henriettas' rose is about 10' tall, to the bottom of her roof line and then about 4-6' across.

GGG

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