Ken, The pictures you showed us of the Abies procera x Abies koreana have nothing to do with the plant at the picture I allready linked. I also think your plant is a cross between Abies lasiocarpa x Abies koreana which is also called Abies x lasiokor. Your plant shows us the typical big buds of An Abies lasiocarpa. OR maybe it's a cross between Abies koreana x Abies lasiocarpa x Abies koreana which is also called Abies x koreocarpa. Which one was the motherplant with the cones? Also the Abies procekor 'Tannenfreude' shows us nothing that Abies procera is involved. The buds looks smaller then Ken's plant. Is it possible that you can show us a close-up picture of these? Here is a link that might be useful: Abies x procekor

why thank you junkie .... isnt it surprising.. that in the whole of the conifer world.. apparently you and I own the only two procera anywhere ... please allow me to broaden the scope of the question: RE: does Abies procera need shade in the northern hemisphere ??? maybe now i will get some more useful info ... resin... whats its native region ... and what would you presume is so different than MI .... elevation?? ... etc ... whats the key variable .... ken ps: i think i am screwed.. if i have to default to the southern hemisphere ... do we have any member .. well.. maybe AU ... but i doubt procera grows down under ...

Great pictures. I love 'DelBar's Cascade' too, but it's the way it fits into your garden that really does it for me. Your 2012 picture is fantastic! In that 2012 shot, what's the gold pine at bottom right, also what's the gold bun behind and to the right? The latter looks a little like 'Tom Thumb Gold', but it looks like it's growing too fast for that cultivar. is that 'Kotobuki' on the other side? Alex

Jacobson, North American Landscape Trees (1996, Ten Speed, Berkeley) gives a somewhat different history: Discovered in 1933 as a lightning-struck tree on Mt. Hood, OR, by Sherwood nursery of Portland, OR. Named officially in 1948. Oregon nurseries have continuously propagated it since then, but overall it has remained rare Coenosium Gardens gives this account: During 1933, a golden Noble fir was discovered at the Sherwood Nursery in Portland, Oregon. The needles are long and upcurved with a persistent bright yellow color. Although a young plant will burn in the full sun, the burning will cease as it ages. Some nurseries sell this plant as Abies procera ÂAureaÂ, but it is more correctly listed as Abies procera ÂSherwoodiiÂ. At one time a rumor was circulating to the effect that this plant originated on Mt. Hood in Oregon as the top half of a lightning struck tree. Although this rumor was never substantiated, other nurserymen claim to have seen lightning struck trees with golden tops Here is a link that might be useful: GOLDEN CONIFERS