First my heartfelt thanks to Anita for her warm and caring comment. It meant the world to me. Much I don't remember back then, and either I or the paper got the detail wrong about the bed/machine. Bernadine had a younger sister, I remember, thought her name was Brenda, didn't sound right, maybe it was Glenda. I have thought over the years what a terrible ordeal it would have been for the family, the caring, the moving to CA and the constant sorrow and stress. I know what it is to lose a child, lost my son in December 2012 under vastly different circumstances, and I will never get over it. It was fourth grade, the fall of 1950. The family moved to Davenport from Buffalo or Linwood, and Bernadine may have started a little late that year. February 1951 was still fourth grade, and I don't think Bernadine returned to school after that Valentine's Day I mentioned in one of my posts. Then was the unsuccessful surgery in Iowa City. Bernadine would have been in a coma for at least six years before she died. There are probably still some here who remember her. It is painful to think that so much has been learned and new diagnostic methods that she could be saved were it to happen now as they are able to save to many heart patients. It was a blessing for Anita to be born the year after her death, and she was no doubt much welcomed and loved, but no child can ever replace another. So thank you again Anita for responding to my old post. And hope I didn't say anything wrong or offensive. About the roses. I had my own website and had an html page full of my "finds" where I found most of them, and how they looked after I got them rooted. The best I can do is post them to my flickr photo stream. Some you can kind of figure out but most will be a jumble. See if this link works to my flickr account. There should be 29 or so rose photos. I tried some months back to upload a couple photos to houzz and failed. I used to be able to do it with ease but not since they changed the format of the site. https://www.flickr.com/photos/44652973@N04/

John: Funny thing is the leaves do look almost the same but I can assure you this one is a Moro! I NEVER smelled such a heavy, strong, perfumed and heavenly scent such as this one! I was washing off the leaves yesterday in the shower and 1, just 1 bloom fell off. I never got around to cleaning the tub until today and that one bloom, mind you with just one pedal left has the whole tub area smelling sweet. Amazing. I also have one other type of Navel little tree that smells as strong as that. I whiff it, and then I smell that fragrance linger as I walk all the way back into my house from the greenhouse as if the plant followed me. Josh: You certainly have something great to look forward too. I can't wait:-) Patty: You are right on in that department for fragrance, after whiffing probably thousands of citrus trees in your lifetime. I do agree that other than the infamous 'Lemon Meyer', my Grapfruit and Oranges trees by far surpass my lemones and limes in the fragrant catergory. Tim: Now that is a huge bumnmer. Who would of thought that? I was always under the impression that there is 'NO' bad place in California to grow anything. There has to be a solution.:-) Mike

And let me tell you, they don't let you forget 'em! They come back year after year, no matter what I do and spread like crazy within my bed! I love them in spring and have decided to just go with them and let them do their thing! But, I have to make sure they don't spread out onto the lawn!

Oooh, yeah we did have some cold nights. I have plenty of places to sink them into the ground. Can I also transplant them straight into the ground this fall? There's a bed that I'm redoing and thinking of doing a lot of lilies in, this one could be the first resident.