Oh I forgot what Shelley is ordering too, I think she's got the Iris bug too!

LOL Sharon, yeah Pacifier occurred to me as funny too. And it's baby pastel colours. Hmmm am I having a baby or something? I hope so because if I'm not, there's an alien pokin at me. ;0)

Funny thing is, I never consider myself a real huge iris lover, but I like them because they're affordable and easy to grow. If peonies and roses were $4.50 each, heck now I would have every one they ever made!

That iris bug has sure travelled to the far north hasn't it?!LOL The iris thread in the gallery is sure going to be long for next year.......won't it be great?!

I don't think I'll be ordering directly from Chapman's this year. I'll wait and see what the CWIS has to offer first. I've already picked up a few this year, so the madness has already begun.;^)

From Elenore, I got:
Pippi Longstocking
Pumping Iron
Sparky
Flea Circus
Chimera
Blueberry Tart

From Brenda I've gotten:
Incendiary
Tantara
Bold Imp
Prince of Burgundy
Eye Bright
Jillaroo
Ottawa (Siberian)
Lavender Queen (Siberian)

From ensata:
TB Sly Fox
Siberians;
Double Stardards
Band of Angels
China Spring
Coronation Anthem
Jewelled Crown
Plum Frolic
Riverdance
Shebang
Sultan's Ruby

I figure if I get a few from the CWIS sale, then I'm done for the year........I want to start seeing some of them bloom in clumps for next year....I can hardly wait!:0)

Guess it is my turn...

On May 23 in this thread I listed the siberians I got from the Ensata order. At least 2 have not made it. Tumblebug was dead when I received it and China Spring just kept turning brown. The others have not been totally lost but almost. I am hoping that they will be able to make it through their first year and then we should be fine. Next time I think, I would order directly from Ensata.

From Eleanor Hutchison, last Monday on a visit to her yard near St. Anne's, I got free irises (I traded some of mine for some of hers)...

flight director
snow tree
pippi longstocking
sleepytime
sparky
ditto
forever violet
lumanite
chimera
flea circus
blueberry tart
cherry web
ice etchings?

the ones I bought from her...
cee jay
sea urchin
grapelet
lemon on ice
eramosa miss
pumping iron

I purchased Dance Ballarina Dance Siberian Iris from Patmore Nursery Sales last week along with 2 lilacs and other perennials.

From Laurie this spring...
Azure Skies TB iris
other perennials including 4 daylilies that she started from seed from her garden that I got from her.

I will be trading/purchasing more irises, daylilies and other perennials in July from friends and also purchasing from the CWIS iris sale.

I still have the irises and a few daylilies that I overwintered to plant out plus a few other spring purchases...
-40ish daylilies
-18 hostas
-8 roses
-8 peonies
-12 sedums and hens and chicks
-3 pulmonaria
-4 veronica
-3 cranesbill
-4 poppies
-3 phlox
-2 coralbells
-2 masterworts
-30ish lilies

Now to get over this bout of pneumonia and then when I try to plant all these perennials into the garden I won't be huffing and puffing and then coughing the whole time. It is amazing how much energy it takes right now to do anything. Just to walk downstairs to the pantry and back up to the kitchen on the main floor I feel like I have just walked a mile. Oh, well, I am on my third batch of medicine and hopefully this time it works.

Brenda

I do have the iris bug. Dang it anyways all of you enablers.
I too ordered more than $150 for the same reason as Sharon.
I would have liked to order mostly TB from Chapmans because of the larger flowers, but I am waiting to see how the ones that I planted in the spring fair over winter. And since some of you rave about the smaller ones, I decided that this was maybe my best bet.
My order:
MDB-
Forever Violet
SDB_
Absolute Joy
Being Busy
Blueberry Tart
Cherry Tart
Crystal Carpet
Dark Rings
Exotic Candy
Folk Art
Forever Blue
Frentic
Grape Invader
Headwaters
Merry Dance
Mystic Smile
Persian Carpet
Pink Frosting
Raspberry Jam
Ruby Eruption
Summer Recall
Wizard of Hope
IB-
Dusty Rhodes
Flying Circus
Whistle

Plus my freebies SDB's
Heathers Carpet
Klingon Princess
Summoned Spirit
Ruby Passion

A couple that I really wanted were gone before I placed my order, but I see some of you have them. Future Trades????
SDB Pippi Longstockings
IB Prince of Burgundy.

Now after looking, I see that I ordered very little blue. I love that color on irises.

Shelley

So, now that everyone sees what everyone else has...do we all make future trade wish lists with everyone else? I want this this year... that next year... and that the year following.....

Prince of Burgundy is large enough for a piece for you, Shelley, if you wish for trading sometime. I think that is one of my favorite irises. You should have seen it after the rain early this morning!

Brenda

Have you seen the tall bearded Iris at the homepage of the CIS?
Superstition Gardens (seedling # 01-tb-61-03).

It's Gorgeous!

Sharon

Here is a link that might be useful: seedling # 01-tb-61-03

That one is stunning Sharon! I love irises with rich colours like that.

I got my Chapman's order today. I'm tired and grumpy and probably should wait until tomorrow to see if I'm still pissed off, but of 10 irises I ordered, 3 weren't available, and they used 2 of my substitution list and sent me a bunch of other stuff that I'm not too keen on. Like if they send me 4 freebies I won't notice that I didn't get what I want. I was so happy with Chapmans last year, this is a little disgruntling.

Grrrrrr

Ummm Gil, I hope you are feeling better this morning. Chapman asks on both the website and in his catalogue that you provide a substitute list, in case he can't provide what you order. Sometimes he can't provide a certain iris because of high demand or because it was a bad year for that particular iris. He also says that if you provide a substitute list, that he will send extras with your order. It sounds like he did exactly what he said he would do. I know it can be disappointing when you don't get your first choices....but you could always trade the ones you don't like..with someone who has ones you do like. Just a thought. Oh btw I could send you some purple and whites. LOL! Hope you are smiling now!

Sierra

Yeah I feel better this morning - but maybe I wasn't clear. I did provide a substitution list, and they sent me different substitutions. Maybe my substitutions weren't available either.

Anyway, I went and planted them all this morning and I'm watering them in. Hopefully the ones I didn't pick will surprise me. It's happened before ;0)

Gillian,

Which irises did you not get that you ordered, and what were the substitutions you did receive?

I am waiting for my order from Snowpeak Irises to come in. Somehow it got caught in customs for a few weeks. Hopefully the poor little rhizomes will be okay when I finally do get them.

Brenda

I didn't get:
Chocolate Swirl
Pacifier
Artists Palette
Spanish Angel

I did get:
Bantam Prince
Leprechaun's Purse
Eramosa Blushing Bride

Long story short, I ordered $55.50, they sent $90 value, of which $53.50 was either what I ordered or requested as subs. Eramosa B.B. is a $27.50 iris but I didn't order it.

I'm feeling, like usual, like a real bad whiner for not getting what I ordered. I guess in future I will ask for a refund instead of substitutions.

Gil, that's too bad about your order this year, especially the Pacifier one. I hoping my order comes in tomorrow (tuesday).
ERAMOSA BLUSHING BRIDE is so pretty, but I only see it at $17.50?

Sharon

Today my Chapman order came. Six of them were no longer available so I received a refund. But he did send me a couple more freebies-Bantam Prince and Widows Veil. Now just I am waiting on the Snowpeak and CWIS sale iries to come.

Shelley

We must have made Chapmans too popular! LOL. Sharon, that's funny I checked my print catalogue and it says Eramosa Blushing Bride is $17.50. But the online catalogue says $27.50.

I think so Gil, maybe we should keep it a secret ;)

My order came today and all planted up, 9 were out of stock, darn it anyway! But I'm happy and very pleased with all the subs and bonuses I received, particulary ERAMOSA FRECKLES, a $20 MTB Iris!

SDB
AGELESS
CHERRY TART (replacement from last year)
CO-ED FLIRT
DRAGONÂS DEN
ECHOES (they sent 2, I think one of them should of been GINGERBREAD MAN)
EXOTIC CANDY
FIRESTORM
FLAMING EMBERS
GRAPE INVADER
HOTTENTOT
JADE WIZARD
JUICED UP
PIPPI LONGSTOCKINGS
SKY DANCER
SPIRIT GUIDE

BB
QUINALT

BONUS GIFTS
For orders received before July 15th choose one plant from list A.
$150-$300 choose ONE from B & TWO from list A.
A) HEATHERÂS CARPET SDB
A) GARDEN BRIDE TB
A) QUEEN DORTHY TB
B) RUBY PASSION SDB

Extra Bonus/ Substitutions
BACCI SDB
BANTAM PRINCE SDB
BARNEYÂS DELIGHT SDB
BONUS BABY SDB
ERAMOSA FRECKLES MTB
JUNGLE GEM SDB
MYSTIC SMILE SDB
NORTHERN EXPOSURE SDB
PARADIGM SHIFT SDB
RUBY ERUPTION SDB
SABRINAÂS SONG SDB
SKYRAY SDB
WAR CHIEF TB
WIDOWÂS VEIL SDB
WIZARD OF HOPE SDB

Now I'm just waiting for the CWIS Irises to come in too ;)

Sharon

That should read SABRINAÂS KISS, not SONG.

That's quite the list Sharon. You are going to have a real rainbow of colours next spring with all of those!

Today I received my order from the CWIS sale. 2 were missing from my order and substituted with 2 others. All are planted except for Storm Song which was really quite rotten. I scraped more than half the rhizome away, soaked it in bleach water and it is now drying. I probably will pot this one up because I do not think it will take the stress of planting straight into the ground. I'm thinking that it possibly came from Snowpeaks??? I hope the Snowpeaks order comes to me in descent shape.

I got:
MDB-
French Wine
Grandma's Hat

SDB-
Caraboo
Casper's Shadows
Cool Melodrama
Dinky Doodle
Gimmick
Hoodlum
Ice and Indigo
Incendiary
Quark
Pixie Princess

IB-
Hot Wheels
Storm Song

MTB=
Rosemary's Dream

TB
Innocent Star

Shelley

You guys still haven't recieved your SP order, wow, that's a long wait.

Dang, I worked late that evening the CWIS sale went up, you must of ordered before me Shelley, because there were a few that I wanted on your list but were sold out already right at the beginning.

With the ones that I did order, 4 were sold out and was refunded for, one is kind of rotted, so I gave it a bleach dip and a few rhizomes were very tiny, I planted them in the ground anyways, hopefully they will make the winter ;)

CWIS
MDB
EXTRA
GIZMO
GRANDMAÂS HAT

SDB
BLACK SUEDE
BLOODSTONE (sold out)
BLUEBERRY TART
CARABOO
COOL MELODRAMA
ICE AND INDIGO
INCENDIARY (sold out)
JEWEL BABY
KENTUCKY BLUEGRASS (sold out)
OOH LA LA
QUARK
ROYAL OVERTIME (Bonus)
SHELDON BUTTS
SPICE IS NICE
STATIC
WIDOWÂS VEIL

IB
BLESSED AGAIN

MTB
PREFERENCE
ROSEMARYÂS DREAM (sold out)

TB
DAUGHTER OF STARS

Sharon

Sharon as long as mine make the winter and thrive, I'll be able to give you some of the ones you wanted.
I too has some really small rhizomes. Chapmans was no different for me though. There were small ones in that order too.

Shelley

Well, I guess I'd better post my big long list from the CWIS sale too.

SDB Quark
MTB Merit

Short and sweet.;^)

Laurie, you don't have room for all those. Send some to me. ;0) LOL

LOL! (I may take you up on that some day.....beware!;^))

Ahh thanks Shelley, I'd appreciate that!

Laurie, I hope you didn't break a sweat planting all those Irises!

Sharon

Heck, i can beat Laurie. Here's my order:

:>

Marcia, yup, no sore backs for us, eh?!lol

Right, Laurie! I'm not ordering any more irises until i've figured out how to get the ones i have to bloom.

Marcia, buy SDB's then, they usually bloom the year after, sometimes two years if the rhizomes are small.

Sharon

Marcia, what kinds of irises do you have??

I feel with you Sharon. The evening the CWIS sale went 'up' I was at a family gathering. I didn't even mention to anyone that inside I was anxious to be home that evening instead of visiting. Non-gardeners wouldn't understand. So, at 10pm when I got home, here's mine from the CWIS sale that I was able to get...

MDB
Gizmo

SDB
Blue Denim (bonus)
Blue Line
Caraboo
Casper's Shadow
Hoodlum
Ice and Indigo
Lady in Red
Quark
Widow's Veil

MTB
Preference

TB
Clarence

Also, from a friend this week I got...
SDB Confused
SDB Stinger
SDB Dainty Pinafore
SDB Starbaby

And, I did a large trade about 6 weeks ago and got...

MDB
Alpine Lake
Cupcake
Elfin Magic
Extra
Funny Face
Regards
Toyland

SDB
Comma
Denali
Dragon's Den
Ghost Gossip
James Bond
Jungle Warrior
Mini Big Horn
Petite Polka
Pink Blink
Pixie Princess
Rapscallion
Razzle-dazzle
Sky Dancer
Totally Cool
Tumbleweeds
What Again

BB
Cranapple
Miss Nellie

IB
Arctic Fancy
Chatterbox
Double Your Fun
Maui Moonlight
Samtpfoetchen

MTB
Bangles
Rick
Rosemary's Dream

TB
Before the Storm
Cranberry Ice
Honky Tonk Blues
Loop de Loop
Vitafire

Siberian
Teal Velvet

All of the irises from the large trade are potted up. The CWIS irises and other 4 irises I am just planting right into the landscaping. All the purchases from this year are along the edge of the garden awaiting their permanent spots. Now that the weather is in the low 20's for a high during the day, I am planting the new perennials into the flowerbeds. I did about 20 perennials last night and am going to concentrate on doing as many as possible each day now until they are all in.

I am still waiting for the Snowpeak order...will post when I receive them. And I am also getting some daylilies and hostas from a friend (but since this is a iris thread....)

Brenda

Brenda, i have some bearded irises and some Siberians. This year i got a Siberian collection from somewhere - Vesey's possibly. Yes, just checked. I also have the usual Rhein Nixe. I divided these last fall - what a job! - and only a few of them bloomed this year, but i think they'll do okay next year. It's the bearded irises that haven't been blooming. None of the new Siberians bloomed this year, but a mix i planted a couple of years ago (turned out to be an all-blue mix!) has been blooming. As i've mentioned somewhere else, this summer, only 'Immortality' bloomed out of the - mentally counts - eight bearded ones. Once i figure them out, i'll add to my collection. :)

Marcia, bearded Irises come in different sizes, try some Standard Dwarf Bearded irises, smaller than the tall bearded but just as pretty in the garden.

These Iris grow 8-15" tall. They quickly form clumps and have many colours not often seen in other types. They do well in borders and rock gardens, tolerate shade better and are much more hardier than the TB's.

Check out Chucks website for the different sizes of bearded irises and also check out all the SDB's he has to offer.

Well at least you got HOOLUM Brenda, I like that one!
Wow, thats quite the trade, nice ones too!

Sharon

Here is a link that might be useful: RELATIVE SIZES OF THE BEARDED IRIS FAMILY

I have two shorter ones, Little Annie. They didn't bloom either, but then, they also got lost in some other plants. I need to get out there and change some things around. Maybe next summer, i'll make a bed for irises around my new crabapple tree. Hmmmmm...... :)

Well, I have bleached, cleaned and planted my Snowpeak Irises...

IB American Patriot
IB Attitude
BB Ballycastle
BB Baboon Bottom
SDB Ballistic
SDB Cat's Eye
SDB Clash
BB Color My World
MDB Derby Boy
IB Eye Wonder
IB Eye of Newt
SDB Fingertips
IB Flying Circus
IB Hot Cupid
IB Lunar Frost
MTB Maslon
IB Ming
SDB Posing
SDB Puddy Tat
SDB Serendipity Elf
IB Star Woman
SDB Time to Shine
SDB Tickety Boo
SDB Whydidi
SDB Wildcat PJ's
SDB Zarosshi Prud

Some of the ones we ordered as a group sat so long at the Customs that they are unidentifiable ... so one of the girls is 'babysitting' them in the trauma ward (a protected special spot in her yard)... these are the ones she has, yet 'missing in action'...
IB Miss Mauve
IB Mystic Potion
SDB Spice Sister
IB Storm Song
SDB Terse Verse
SDB Trajectory
BB Twilight Passage

If anyone wants to see what the irises look like, go to...

http://www.snowpeakiris.com/iris2000/navpage.htm

Since I have a lot of SDB's I tried to steer myself towards IBs, BBs, MTBs and so that is why you will find that half of the order of the Snowpeak Irises is such. Of course, there are SDBs in there, 'cause when I saw what they looked like I just had to have them also.

I love the irises with many colors in them but did order some solid colored ones to be planted next to the multicolored ones. That way the multicolored ones will stand out more.

What I did with all the Snowpeak irises, when I planted them, was to draw a line across horizontally on the iris foliage with a thin permanent marker. This way, as they grow, the lines will spread apart or be at different levels. I have noticed that the majority of them have lines that are moving already. They are planted up in individual pots, in the greenhouse, where it is warmer than outside. I did this line system also for the CWIS irises, but they are all planted up outside. If there is no movement of the lines shortly, they will be coming in for the winter.

With all the irises we each at the Far North now have, we should do our own 'in house' swap in a few years. What do you all think??

Brenda

Brenda, I don't think I'll do anymore mail order shopping.........I'll just do all my shopping at your place from now on!lol

Well, all I got from Snowpeak was:

SDB Buster
SDB Flower Child
IB Eye Wonder
IB Zing Me

And thankfully, due to Brenda, they also got bleached, cleaned and potted up because I was away when they came in.

I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before, because some people may question my sanity, but I'm trying to do the alphabet with irises, and I still need to get ones that start with U,V,X, and Y. Anybody got any starting with these letters that you could trade with me for in the future?

The other day I received my order from Snowpeaks as well.
I labeled them, then soaked them for a few hours. Cleaned them and then gave them a bleach bath. Let them dry and then I planted mine in pots to keep in the house for the winter.

I ordered:
TB Act of Kindness
SDB Alenes Other Love
IB Attitude
BB Baboom Bottom
IB Barrel House Blues
IB Blast
SDB City Neon
SDB Clever Touch
SDB Clockwork
BB Colour My World
SDB Coney Island
BB Delightful Kid
SDB Fingertips
SDB Flower Child
BB Go for Bold
SDB Goosebumps
SDB Jive
MTB Maslon
SDB Mikey Likes It
SDB Orionico Flow
SDB Serendipity Elf
IB Star Woman
SDB Wild Cat PJ's

Missing in action and being babysat for me are:
IB Mystic Potion
SDB Party Animal
SDB Pele
IB Pink Pele
SDB Puddy Tat
BB Raspberry Silk
SDB Ruby Eruption
IB Saucy
IB Storm Song

Plus one of my freebies rhizomes was totally rotted. No saving that one.

At least one of us got Puddy Tat Brenda. That was the only one that I was really upset that I didn't get.
I'm going to have to try your trick with the marker today. Especially on the ones outside. Nothing seems to be growing outside. But I think that is due to the really cool weather that we are having here.

Shelley

Glad to hear you gals got your SP orders in FINALLY. I did two SP orders this year via Ginny. One last July, came in within a week, nice healthy rhizomes and they have settled in just perfectly. The other order was just ordered a week ago via Co-op/ Ginny.

The second order of Irises will not be here till the middle of September. I'm going to plant the mediums as soon as I get them in, a little deeper and mulch with dry loose straw at freeze-up time (Halloween). Once spring time comes next year, I will brush back some soil and take the straw off. Hopefully we have a long warm fall for these to settle in. The 3 TB's will be potted up and brought in the house for the winter.

SNOWPEAKS NLRIS planted in July
SDB
BALLISTIC
CAR HOP
CLASH
EYE OF NEWT
FANCY SPARKLER
FINGERTIPS
JILLAROO
JIVE
JUNGLE WARRIOR
PRIMAL SCREAM
PUDDY TAT
RUBY TUESDAY
SPARKS FLY
TERSE VERSE
TIME TO SHINE
WEE STROLL

BB
BABOON BOTTOM
BOISTEROUS
CASCADING RAINBOW

IB
ATTITUDE
EYE WONDER
TB
CARNIVAL IN RIO
CAVALIERÂS CAPE
DARK PASSION
FANCY WOMAN
IMMORTALITY
ZIGGY
extras....
HOT CUPID IB
MAGIC CHILD IB
WHO'S YOUR DADDY TB (will be sent next year)
JERSEY CREAM IB (will be sent next year)

SNOWPEAK CO-OP $2.25 sale
SDB
BEEÂS KNEES
BOURGEOIS
CHERRY CURLS
COOL MAID
ELEPHANT FOOTPRINTS
ESCAPE HATCH
FAST FORWARD
GENTS IN TUCKS
LITTLE FIRECRACKER
LORE
PARTY ANIMAL
PASSPORT TO PIMLICO
PAUSE
PELE
PINK FROSTING
SNUGGLEBUG
WHYDIDI
WILDCAT PJÂS
YIPPY SKIPPY

IB
DOMAINE
IN A FLASH
LAPWING
PERSIAN WOOD
RUBY SLIPPERS
SAUCY
SPLAT
STARWOMAN
THIS AND THAT

BB
TWILIGHT PASSAGE

MTB
BUTTERFLY DANCE
MASLON
PERSIAN LANTERN
PRETTY QUIRKY

TB
RAKU BLAZE
TIGER SHARK
JUNGLE PRINCESS

For sure Brenda, we'll have to have our own FN swap!

Laurie, LOLOh yes, I'm waiting for another order from Chapman Iris (Beardless Order), hopefully this will be in soon too.
Siberian
CAESARÂS BROTHER
LADY VANESSA
RIVERDANCE
ROARING JELLY
ROSY BOWS
TUMBLE BUG
WINDWOOD SPRING

Spuria
ARBITRATOR
KAIBAB TRAILS

Sharon

Shelley, I agree, at least one of us got Puddy Tat. Hopefully mine will make it through the winter and if yours doesn't make it at El's, at least in the future both of us can have it.

I also, already have Pele, Ruby Eruption and Party Animal. So, if yours doesn't make it in the Trama Ward....

Also, Alene's Other Love is in my garden, I got it a few years ago.

My Serendipity Elf is just a rhizome with no fan. Think it will be growing in the house this winter. My Cat's Eye and Ming are the same.

Brenda

I have 2 irises Brenda without any fans. And a couple with barely any.
Can't say the names, they are upstairs and I do not feel like running up there now.

Shelley

Sharon, you bought an iris named "Baboon Bottom"?? Was whoever named that one watching the Africam? LOL I shudder to think what it looks like, having viewed a few baboon bottoms on the cam! :>

LOL, you still watching that Africam! I ordered it because of the broken colours.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/118009/

Here is a link that might be useful:

Well, baboons have, uh, cute bottoms, but that iris is downright pretty! I guess one of these years i'll have to start an African themed area in one of my beds. This year i had a couple of African daisies and the lily African Queen, which died on me. :( Hmmm, elephant ears could go there, and isn't there a lily called Giraffe? LOL Another thing to plan!

Well let me know if you want any Dandi-lion seeds Marcia, got lots of those if you want for you African garden ;)

I have to say that the Snowpeaks irises really want to live after being out of the ground for how long ?????.
I think that I might put some in the garden yet.
All of the SDB ones are ahead in growth and rooting compared to the ones from Chapmans, the CWIS sale and other trades. Wow. But these others were put into the ground.

BTW I've checked out Snowpeaks pictures to what you other girls have ordered. You all have some really nice selections.

Shelley

I am lucky to have Iris (Versicolor) growing rampantly and wild all over near our cabin. Unfortunately, in one small grove of them (about 4 plants), some ground hornets decided to make themselves at home, so I have to enjoy them from a distance.

Also, they tend to bloom at varying times with some blooming in early June, and some not blooming until early July. They are truly one of my favorite flowers, and provide a nice green background for other flowers once they're done.

Got my beardless Iris order in from Chuck yesterday and all planted today, turns out only 4 were in stock of what I ordered. Oh well, I got lots of nice subs and bonuses in return.

Siberian
BANISH MISFORTUNE
CAESARÂS BROTHER
GATINEAU
HELICOPTER
ILLINI GLORY
PERCHERON
RIVERDANCE
SARAH TIFFNEY
SHIPS ARE SAILING

Spuria
ARBITRATOR
ELEANOR HILL
EAGLE
KAIBAB TRAILS
NEW ZEALAND

Sharon

Very nice order Sharon. Were they all a fair size?

Ok, I know that it's a bit late to be planting bearded iris outside in my zone now, but is it still alright to be planting beardless iris now? I'm assuming that they came bareroot to you right?

I'm taking a chance Laurie, Chuck sends them bareroot with about 6" of the fan. Yes, they were all decent sizes, good healthy long roots.

They have been mulched good with straw around the plant right now, at freeze up time, I will cover the crowns good with straw.

Yeah, I'm also taking a chance of planting some medium beards in the garden probably tomorrow, my SP co-op order should be in by then. Tb's I will overwinter indoors.

Sharon

Oh, I was thinking that maybe the siberians were hardier and therefore could be planted out later. But good luck with them. Maybe we'll have a nice long fall for them to settle in well. I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway.

The one spuria that I put in this year, was looking very brown and dried up by August. But now I think there's a tiny new shoot popping up, so maybe there's hope yet. I guess I'll know for sure by spring.