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Seedling going for $650 on LA

16 years ago

I guess I am a dope,but I just don't get it.If a seedling was really this good,why wouldn't a Hybridizer keep it,even if it doesn't fit into their "program"?

Betsy

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msrose
16 years ago
Well, I'd sure like to see what a $650 daylily looks like. Do you have a link?

Laurie
msrose
16 years ago
Never mind, I found it. It's definitely pretty, but not $650 pretty.

Laurie

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cody_mi
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some of the sellers on the auction hybridize just to sell the seedlings. also it might not be registerable in the hybridizers mind, but it could be perfect for breeding. i also think it's a bit rediculous to spend that much on a daylily, but it doesn't seem to stop me from spending 100.00 on one plant.
edshostas
16 years ago
wow.....can see alot of Ivan in that flower, def not worth $650, but definitely worthy of a chair and an hour of my time......wow, gaskins has always had nice seedlings, some of the best I have seen
shellyga
16 years ago
Nancy and I met them in person and they have so many lovely seedlings. I have a picture of one that I am waiting for her to list -- nice HUGE pink.. so all you lily auction addicts -STAY AWAY..lol.. Not sure why they didn't choose that one to hold on to since it is big but is looks similar to some of their other introductions. It might not be fertile either.. which would be a draw for anyone wanting to use it to hybridize with. I really love the seedling that has so much purple in it..but still can't go that much without knowing if it would work for hybridizing. I bought a huge clump of a beautiful seedling on our Mecca trip and it won't set a pod so far.. but the pollen seems fertile so I am happy.
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cody_mi
16 years ago
the seller is mary gaskins and most likely all of the seedlings listed will be registered in the near future. she then emails the people that bought the seedlings and lets them know the name they'll be registered with.
okbt
Original Author
16 years ago
Description said it had just bloomed at 10 months old the morning it was listed,so I wonder about them knowing if it is fertile.Never thought of a seedling's fertility in this equation either.It is a beauty,though.I guess Gaskins have this culling thing down to a science.I am sure this one has surprised them.Am I correct in thinking that a person can only register a seedling if it has not bloomed for the Hybridizer?Would it always have to be referred to as "Gaskin seedling..."?

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okbt
Original Author
16 years ago
Cody-This sale said "you get all of this seedling".That says to me she will not be registering it.Am I right?Why would they register it but not keep any of it?I am just trying to understand the process.

Betsy
shellyga
16 years ago
Some of her seedlings she sells just a fan or two of -- those are often the ones that she is still evaluating and that might end up being registered some day. Others she sells all of to a single bidder. Those she would not register obviously since the bidder now owns all of that particular seedling. I think that if you own all of the seedling.. which is usually in the auction description - then it is yours to do with as you wish.. I could be TOTALLY wrong here so don't jump me if I am. I think I would somehow note that it bloomed first in Gaskins garden.. maybe Gaskin-Meyers??? But then again, if they didn't think it worthy of their name and sold off all of the seedlings, then they may not want their name included. I haven't come across this yet - although I do have about 5 purchased seedlings from various sellers that I am evaluating. Mary and Phillip introduced about 8 or so this past year and are super friendly, so if you bought ALL of a seedling from her and was interested in the possiblity of registering - she would be able to tell you just what kind of notation needs to be made.
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okbt
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16 years ago
Shelly-I found this on the AHS site.
"* ORIGINATOR
The complete name and address of the originator must be given. The originator has been determined by the Board of Directors to be the person who has ownership of the entire cultivar when it blooms for the first time.

* NAME AND ADDRESS OF REGISTRANT
This space is used only when a person other than the originator applies for the registration of the plant. In this case, the Registrant must have written permission of the originator before the plant can be registered (see Permission Statements).

PERMISSION STATEMENTS
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One man's trash really is another man's treasure!

Betsy
beaufort-2006
16 years ago
My wife and I AGREED THERES A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINITE,I HAVE WELL OVER 400 JUST IN SEEDLINGS THAT IS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER LOOKING THAN THAT PIC. AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO PAY ME 650.00 FOR MINE I WOULD SAY THAY ARE NUTS.
marbree
16 years ago
I wouldn't think it would hurt to ask for written permission.
I don't think that they sell anything that doesn't have their vote of confidence, and besides a ten-month old seedling still has a lot of evaluation to go through yet, and may mature to having better qualities.
marbree
16 years ago
The final selling price on that daylily ended up being $880. Holy cats, that's a lot of money! I hope it's a good one for whomever bought it.
msrose
16 years ago
I bet the seller is just as shocked as we are. I'm pretty sure the starting bid was $49.

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