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Comments (4)Do you have a pic from just prior to leaf emergence? It looks as though the full-sized leaves were rolled up or folded within a bud-like thing, with very short internodes separating them; and then they unfolded while the stem elongated. Can you say anything about that?...See MoreWollemi Pine
Comments (18)Novaplantguy, I do not know which nursery the earlier poster referred to, but the Ironmongers imported these plants several years ago and were propagating and selling them in Southern CA. I had thought they were planning on returning to Australia but perhaps I misunderstood. Anyway the signature line on a recent email, dated 31 Oct 2010, from them posted on a Cycad site came from the email address listed below: Bruce & Suzi Ironmonger The Cycad Center Cycads, Brachychitons and Wollemi Pines PO Box 754 Bonsall CA 92003 (760) 723-8092 cycadcenter@msn.com I am not sure I would spend the money for one of these plants to be grown unprotected in VA, but if you are willing to put the effort into protecting the plant you may want to try contacting them. Mike McG near Brenham TX...See MoreWollemi Pine Q's
Comments (27)Tony, yes you are right, however, population size doesnt provide a greater insight into the reasoning of a restricted occurence, it only illustrates that the refuge is slightly larger for that species. I have thought for a while that the three variables water, fire and competition all act independently and codependently to account for the biogeography in Australian plants. These variables be they a result of Aboriginal or natural climate change they have a massive bearing on species occurences and associated speciation. Wollemia would undoubtedly be suited to the highlands of the Wet Tropics however previous climatic deterioration has led to the demise of Nothofagus and the main element of temperate rainforests 'Eucryphia' is only represented by a single population on one mountain peak (which happens to be the highest in the Wet Tropics). Reiterating, Wollemia would grow in the current days climate as it is cool and wet however the competition from large mesophyll species would undoubtedly bump it out of the habitat. I once grow a Nothofagus cunninghamii in the lowlands of NE NSW where it grew amazingly well attaining a height of 2m in less than 2 years. I planted it in the ground where it quickly died due to a lack of water. This suggests that this species is restricted to sthn Vic and Tas because of milder lower evaporation rates and constant moisture. In the warmer subtropics it is unlikley to control is stomata as efficiently as required and thus it looses water to quickly. A friend has a N .cunninghamii growing well in a wetter site than where I planted mine- thus bolstering my presumption that it isnt temperature its water availability that restricts this species to sth locations. Nothofagus moorei is only common in locations where the forests leaf size is reduced to Notophyll and is wet AND the species only recruits following disturbance and freedom from the notophyll saplings/trees. Thus I think that all three variables are at play and possibly if fire wasnt an element of Australian landscapes that competition is more so a determinate than water. Wollemia has small leaves and thus competition with larger leaved species has undoubtedly resulted in its restricted occurence too, as well as fire because Eucalypts are so common in this area now. Maybe it has become restricted to this locality during a really bad climate deterioration event however hasnt been able to escape and re-expand due to the advance of Eucalypts and associated fire-phylic habitats. Now Im rambling.... From Kris...See MoreWollemi Pine
Comments (10)It will be interesting to see how the Wollemi pine goes, now that it's being planted outside its natural area. We may be going to find out why it was squeezed to the point of extinction. Perhaps it doesn't want to thrive anywhere except places that are just like home. It has always seemed surprising to me that Norfolk Island Pines grow successfully in so many places considering their limited natural range - but I guess the rest of their range just sank under the sea! Bunya pines are remarkable, too, in that they are not known to have grown naturally on the heavy blacksoil plains within view of one of their original habitats, the Bunya Mountains - yet planted specimens grow very well there despite the poorly drained soil, the high pH, the frost and the miserable dry winter winds. It would be interesting to hear of other members' experiences with Wollemi pines,especially now that Queensland's climate has "returned to normal", wouldn't it Hardy? Cheers, Trish...See Moredirtslinger2
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