Pinus strobus 'Horsham' x 'Contorta' is a cross between 2 Pinus strobus cultivars for what is now: Pinus strobus 'Tiny Kurls (renamed by Bob Fincham) aka Pinus strobus 'Vercurve' (renamed by Talon Buchholz) aka Pinus strobus 'Contorta Small' aka Pinus strobus 'Curly Globe 2' Greg Williams was the founder of this cross but gave propagation material to several U.S. nurserymen without given a proper cultivar name in front, so several names were given for the same plant...this is not the way it should be.

Thanks for adding to the gallery guys. Seems a bit strange for me to keep posting to myself! :) Thanks for the compliments too, hearing it from conifer legends always makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. More more and more! This is madness!... Picea abies 'Suncrest'. New to me, a nice tight, bluish color miniature, bought at Coenosium Gardens. 'Gold Dust'. An unusually 'leggy' small dwarf with highly unusual colors as the new foliage eventually becomes more golden and mixes well with the older blue/green. 'Perry's Gold'. Pretty bright! New growth eventually reverts to a more dark green. This specimen is in almost full shade. Awesome! 'Vermont Gold' A sport from 'Repens' I believe, grows laterally into a wide shrub, new growth is delicately gold and burns in full sun here. 'Clanbrassiliana Stricta'. A bit more of a cone shaped dwarf. 'Nidiformis'. Common, available at many box stores and in my opinion, still a pretty nice plant. 'Hasin'. Doing some wierd things, I'd better take a look and prune back that barberry! Usually a super-tight miniature similar to 'Dumpy'. 'Malena'. A great looking small dwarf with unusual needle shape, mine received too much sun last year, suffered some damage and this Winter found a new home. 'Aarburg'. A twisting, weeping, chaotic 'Dr. Suess' tree. Saw it for the first time at Coenosium Gardens and had to have one. Eventually gets pretty wide(not too tall), but I think it will be happy enough here in 5-6 hours of sun. Picea abies seems to handle part shade very well. Many of mine are in filtered sun with 3-4 hours of direct sun. 'Gold Drift'. Only one of the best, a strongly weeping, fast growing tree essential to any conifer collection. More when I have time, please feel free to add some of yours. -Will

Glaciers_end, Thank you so much for the info. and your knowledge of "Roter Austrieb"; from the way it was described by coniferjoy, I thought or had strongly hoped this might be a dwarf of Picea abies "Cruenta", I'm with you about wasting that kind of space for one tree. But from what you are telling me; it's another large, which I avoid for our home garden here in West Seattle. I have been admiring "Cruenta" for years; it takes everything from me to walk away every time I lay eyes on it, even with most dwarf in my collection --- if it exceeds a 18 ft high or 8 feet wide I bonsai it in a large pot (very large pot sometimes). I do appreciate your knowledge and heads up. Haven't been able to find much information on it (Roter Austrieb) but love the characteristics too much; worst comes to worst, I'll take it down to our 498 acres ranch in Monmouth, OR (30 minutes out of Salem). Like you; I normally wait around for at least 10 years for new species out of country to hit US growers, and another 5 years for it to hit the market place. Unless I get a buddy to quarantine and clear customs for me from oversea (haha); I've only done that a few times with a close friend that's was the CFO of DeBeers, another conifer and gardening nut for the rare and unusual. My godfather in England was a secondary that I use to request for certain plants; but he is of an age that I don't make these request anymore, so I'll wait like everyone else. It would have been easier if I had the time to heavily collect conifers; when I was working for Mitsubishi in Pulp&Paper/Log&Lumber business for 12 years, I guest I can still go back to some of them -- if I really got to have something (generous friends, old colleagues, and clients). But that industry kept me from even putting conifers in my yard back in those days; to many peoples jobs domestically and globally, it's hard when on occasion you actually fly over to inspect some of the fields of conifer being cut (in Canada, US, New Zealand, Australia, etc.). I did go on a management retreat at for a week to a famous nursery and bonsai (highly regarded place) for executives to learn the art of bonsai; Mitsubishi sent me on, but I was not allowed even to have one in my office. Hopefully this explains a little of my lateness to the party of conifer addiction and collecting --also a few other things that I don't want or can mention here. Got the bug in my late 30's; now being 50 years old, I don't hesitate to pull the trigger most time for specimen size on some things -- keeps the economy going and people in jobs. It's more my husband when it comes to pulling the trigger for specimens than me thou, he wants to see and touch them in our own sanctuary (in our life time) --- because it's part of our home office he proclaims whenever I hesitate on something. My husband also teases me that I want to reverse the "Greenhouse effect" all by myself; I tell him there are lots of people like me, this forum confirms that to me and him. Connections and contacts in almost 30 years of international trades and international finance; makes my passion of gardening or other hobbies gives me a little more advantages to others if I really want to take advantage of that, but I don't. I also would like to apologize to you of earlier correspondences regarding the upcoming Sept. 2016 Regional Conifer Tour that you are hosting. It's just that I get enough out of the blue cold calls for everything. Bill Hibler knows that he has my permission to give you my contact information. If you read some earlier comments on thread "Conifer Addicts" after I posted a few pictures of my garden - also might explain my reaction towards you following your request. Cheers,

I'll get a larger picture at some point Dax. There's some confusion to the true identitity of this plant as the Hupp's family isn't aware of any plants that they named 'Hupp's Compact'. I'd say it was 'Hupp's Dwarf' but this doesn't appear correct either. Here's an older Hupp's Dwarf, I have just a little one in my own garden. Abies procera 'Hupp's Dwarf'. Photo taken at the garden of Jason Hupp. 'Blaue Hexe'. Such a great plant. 5-6 years old now. 'Pendula' - or so named as I purchased it. And a couple more very rare and unique plants from Drake's Crossing Nursery: Abies procera 'Hupp's Single Snake'. Perhaps one of the most unusual plants(not just conifers) I've ever seen, this plant grows fairly similar to a regular noble with nice, large blue-green needles. Eventually it begins to send up very straight, single leaders with NO sidebranches at all. Some pruning is occasionally necessary to give the plant it's good start but eventually you get a single stem firing up towards the heavens at a rate of about 6-12" a year. Never seen anything like it before. A younger plant, same unusual habit. 'Delbar's Cascade'. The original plant, some 25-30 years old. An amazing sentinel, similar to picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns'. 'Hupp's Christmas Tree'. An *extremely* dense and unusual noble-fir. The branching is very tight and compact, even in old age. This is the original specimen tree and pushing 40 years old and maybe 20 feet tall. Some more soon! -Will