I also found out today that I lost my other plants,their corms rotted away. Gee,gardenis a pain. Jack-In-The-Pulpit Arisaemadra triphyllum,both green and purple Green Dragon Arisaemadra dracontium

Today at the Brandon MLRS lily sale I picked up a few more lilies. Of course, BJ gladly helped me fill my arms. We even had a young guy approach us while we were going through the martagons and asked us if we would be willing to have our pictures taken for one of the local newspapers. He asked what we were looking at...knowing nothing about lilies, he didn't know what a martagon was. He got a short, short version about why we would want martagons in our yards. He said he usually did the sports events. Sports and lily bulbs...hmmmm. no similarities. So, today's purchases... Redpath martagon Brocade martagon martagon seedling (Leafland Wine x Tarlton seedling with secondary buds) Mahogany Bells martagon Pink Attraction martagon 2000-11 martagon seedling (92115-3 x Hantsing) Northern Beauty (Oriental x Trumpet) Alabaster Rose asiatic Kansas asiatic Bicolor Ballerina asiatic from trading with Laurie (thanks!!) Tropical Dream AT (asiatic tetraploid) Royal Paradise LA Fangio LA Merry Spring asiatic Tinos asiatic And from trading with Shelley (thanks!!) Algarve LA Shirley asiatic Mount Duckling (pot or border lily) Think I have some planting to do now. The forecast looks great for the next few days, so I am hoping to get these all in asap. Brenda

Hi Otis, nice to meet you and welcome to the FN forum. The Marts are doing good. Yeah, its a long time but you sure do save $ sowing by seed but most of all the anticipation of what they'll look like. Mart bulbs can be very expensive but I do seem to buy a few each year. I got my seed from various sources, Gardens North, North American Lily Society seed sale and a wonderful lily grower named Darm that gardens in the NWT. To buy various Martagon and species bulbs, try Parkland Perennals, Plantlilies.com, Hillcrest Harmony Flowers, The Lily Nook and S-W Gardens, Fraser's Thimble Farm here in Canada. Sharon

I grow both eupatorium maculatum and eupatorium purpureum. (I dont have any e. fistulosum, yet.) The e. purpureum (sweet joe pye weed) grows well in shade. I agree with Janet E, that the sweet joe pye weed flowers are more "grayish pink", less bright than the other eupatoriums. but that is common for "shade" type plants, their colors tend to be less vibrant. another good plant you may want to consider (that JanetE also listed) is veronicastrum virginicum (culvers root) it grows in shade and complements the eupatorium quite nicely. in the sun it can get quite tall. but in the shade is grows shorter and the flower heads tend to be more dainty than what many pictures show. If you decide to try woodland sunflower, i would be careful to dead head flowers so it doesnt take over. but in complete shade it will be harder for it to be as aggressive. and it does like "a little sun" it tends to grow on woodland edges. another suggestion would be some asters that like shade, white woodland aster (aster divaricatus) or arrow leaved aster (a. saggitifolius). I grow the white woodland aster, and it blooms nicely in the shade.