Ronda, not necessarily Dr. Huey. J&P developed a standard on it's own roots where the tree portion and roots are the same plant. The top portion is then grafted to this. Bailey's has Polar Joy which is all one plant. I'm sure they're working on others. My Polar Joy is constantly suckering new plants that would be the same if I wanted to take the time to train them as trees. But, the less expensive tree roses are standards grafted to a root stock then the desired variety grafted to the standard. It's cheaper this way with less labor.

I think so, I guess it figured I had given up on it. Would water it occasionally and put it in front of the french doors. Can't believe it! I'm not sure if I should plant it outside or not now....

You're so right about the caterpillars, George. I tell visitors when they see my captive hornworms, how they got so big in only 3 weeks. I hatch enough from the ova to tell almost to the day [it still varies], how long to pupate. When hornworms hatch from their literally pinhead-sized ova, they are approximately 1/32" x 3/16" and that's still considerably smaller than the horn on a 3" cat! Their filamental black horn is a surprising 1/8" long too. They rather grow into it. At first, they are translucent yellow. They have ot eat something before they get green. It takes 5-7 days, for them to achieve just 3/4" to 7/8". They will only be 1/8" diameter, too. They are tiny and soooo fragile. I still avoid physically touching them to the best of my ability, when so small. Also, they don't achieve their characteristic stripes until they are at least 3/4" to 1". Again, it will vary a bit. From 1" to 2" only takes 5-6 more days. Seven more days, and the cats are as big as most adult fingers! While we may not observe the cat's earliest stages, their growth is exponential. Depending on diet, 3 to 3.5 weeks will send most tobacco hornworms to the pupating medium. The big caterpillars will actually lose a little size/weight just prior to pupating, and change color, too. Some get a little reddish/pinkish, while others just go to a different hue of green, marked by slight translucense. I attribute the latter to the drop in chlorophyll since eating has stopped and the cat has fully purged itself. The miracle of metamorphosis comes next. No other animals on earth do this, but certain insects. God only knows, because science can't even explain or unravel its mystery.

Thanks. In all honesty the roses weren't that hard to move. Except for the Lady Banks. The Vitex(Chaste Tree), bottlebush, Gardenias, and the Lady Banks about killed me though. I would actually say the majority of my roses aren't modern. I have a few, but the majority are old or at least old style (David Austin). I am glad Love Song didn't die on me, it literally took about 10 months of removing suckers. Of course I had let two big suckers grow for about 9 months before I realized they were suckers and not Love song.