C. macropetala in the shade? Viticella?

15 years ago

Now I have to find a place for all my new babies (from Chalk Hill and some other vendors).

We just installed a gazebo on our backyard. It is octagonal, so I am planning to plant 7 Clematis against each wall (I have to leave one side for the entrance :o)).

I will also have a Rhododendron and a fall blooming Camellia planted on the north side of the gazebo. I was thinking about letting a couple of Clematis climb through these shrubs. They will receive 1-2 hours of the direct sun early in the morning and some bright shade to filtered light (gazebo has mosquito screens) for the rest of the day.

What will grow well in such conditions? I've never grown macropetala and viticella types.

Here are the varieties I might plant there:

Cassis Evipo020

Juuli

Tango

Sialia

Ekstra

Warszawska Nike

Pamiat Serdtsa

Syrena

Tie Dye

Viticella Wallenburg

Roogoochi

Red Cardinal

I also have texensis Gravetye Beauty and Huldine.

I've read that C. macropetala can be planted on the north side of the buildings. If you have any experience growing them in shade, please let me know. I'd appreciate any advice/info.

Thanks in advance!

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buyorsell888
15 years ago
I have macropetalas in partial shade and some type IIs as well. They do fine. I don't have any on the north side of anything but do on the east that gets sun blocked by a twenty foot hedge and our house.

I have some integrifolias in partial shade and they don't do as well as those in full sun.

I think the texensis and viticellas need more sun as well. Mine do get some shade and I have a mildew problem.....
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lalalandwi
15 years ago
COTW is a good source to find out which aspect each of these will grow in. According to Donahue's website viticella Venosa Violcea grows in shade. A lot of the viticellas that I look up on COTW say 'any aspect'. I can attest to Walenburg in the shade. Although in containers & new this year so take it for what it's worth. 1 in full sun & pouted, the other in complete shade & started growing like gangbusters.
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alina_1
Original Author
15 years ago
Thanks guys,
I guess Macropetala will do OK there.

Lalalandwi,
Virtually any Viticella will grow well in shade. Unfortunately, this does not mean they will bloom well. "Any aspect" on COTW is not very informative in this respect...
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lalalandwi
15 years ago
Well, what do they mean by 'any aspect' than? I assumed they wouldn't list it as 'any aspect' if it wouldn't bloom because that is the purpose of growing clems to begin with, not just for green vines. I'm confused as to why they would list it that way if it wasn't going to bloom in shade. Sorry, it just doesn't make sense in my mind. Chalk Hill also recommends viticellas for growing on the north side of buildings, so I assumed between both sites it would have to be accurate.
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sheltieche
15 years ago
Shade is very big volume word- shade from building is different from deciduous tree shade, zone 5 is different from zone 8 shade. Problem with macropetala, alpina- they bloom for me early and look like nothing for the rest of the year, once they are grown for while they are not good for any pruning or moving- very unforgiving when their stems are thicker.
they will take considerable shade if shade is from deciduous trees as they will have plenty of sun during blooming time and then trees will leaf out...
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