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all my new mailorder clems are in

16 years ago

i received my clems this week.i ordered two from koi gardens jackamini and ernast markham,there was only a couple of shoots coming from the crown but the roots were huge and thick busting out of the little plastic pot.i also ordered four from qvc (Roberta farms) they were nice looking about 8 inches high but the roots were nothing like the two from koi.i got one from Donahues greenhouses, killian Donahue very nice top growth but again roots were nothing like koi's.i also went to lowes today and found some nice looking clem in bloom or buded up nicely.yes i am now addicted.my name is tom and i am a clemaholic

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violetta1976
16 years ago
LOL! The addiction strikes fast, doesn't it? I just learned what clematis were last summer and now I have 9 of them on a 15x4 balcony. :0P

I recently bought Dr. Ruppel, too. Isn't it lovely? I can't wait to see how it does!
hardin
16 years ago
Check out the 'Crystal Fountain' clematis. It's gorgeous. I ordered one from Garden Crossings online. It came packed wonderfully and looked great. It was about 2 1/2 feet tall and had blooms on it. I was excited.
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Thank you so much buyorsell888. Yes, I did bury them. It's surprising some of the plants don't have new stems from there yet (they are growing from a few healthy buds from the single stem from last year which I cut back near the ground... and they are going strong). Perhaps it may be because it's only the second year. Is it possible the base crown produces new shoots from now after all the other stems have grown this big? I just pinched them but they were nearly 4 feet when I did it. Also, is there any difference between alfalfa pellets and alfalfa meals other than their forms? Many thanks again. Eri
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Joan Dupuis
16 years ago
Your addiction is just starting. Wait til Jeanne and Miguel start posting all their beauties. You'll be looking for a real estate agent so you can move to a bigger property to plant more clems. Ha ha.

Joan
violetta1976
16 years ago
Sigh. I wish Joan were kidding... but she isn't!
rjlinva
16 years ago
My addiction expanded from antique roses to clematis..I went from about a dozen clematis to over 100 different varieties in ONE year. Hmmmmmmmmmm. What's next? peonies?

Robert
carolfm
16 years ago
Robert, in my case it was Iris :-) Tom, welcome to the club.

Carol
opheliathornvt zone 5
16 years ago
It's lilies for me. They'd be perfect if not for the red lily beetles. I let them go the first time I saw them, thinking it was some form of ladybug, but they're really destructive for being so small, and their habits are GROSS! I squished 30 of them Sunday. I have NO MERCY anymore. My big three are roses, clematis and lilies, but I think clemmies are really my favorite.
carla17
16 years ago
I feel myself falling. Falling into a clematis obsession! I got ten new ones this year.
Carol, iris is next for me.

Carla
shmeal
16 years ago
Where do you grow all of them??? I too love every clematis that I see, but I only have three trellises - so I only have three clematis. I'm looking for a combo to grow with The President in my front door garden so that will bring my grand total up to four. I'm willing to jump into this addiction but I need help figuring out where to grow them.
jeanne_texas
16 years ago
Shmeal..you can plant a white clematis to go with "The President"..just make sure it's a pruning group 2 unless you are one of those that hard prune your 2's like 3's..I have my Clematis "The President" planted with "Mrs. Cholmondeley"...don't forget you can plant them in large shrubs as well to crawl and twine up through. Walk around your gardens and think..I am sure you'll find all kinda places to incorporate clematis..
Speaking of other Obsessions yall..I also have a thing for Crinums,Roses and Daylilys...
fool4flowers
16 years ago
I got mine yesterday from Koi Gardens and you are right. Huge roots. I had to cut them out of the pots, lol. I'm sure they will do better than the ones with more top growth and less roots.
carolfm
16 years ago
I apologize for the hijack, but Jeanne, what daylilys are you growing? I had some planted in the beds with the roses and they tried to take over the beds. I had to dig them up. I do love them but the ones I had were much too vigorous. Do the ones you grow have better manners and rebloom well?

Carol
jeanne_texas
16 years ago
Carol..they are all pretty much vigorous..LOL..you must divide them every 3-5 years so they will bloom better as well..I just divide..move around to other places in my gardens or use for exchange over at Dave's or trade or just give away!!...Jeanne

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