Ralphw, thanks for the JCRA link. I wish I lived closer, but it's just too far for a one-day-trip. Maybe when I am in the area for something else.... Thanks also for the raspberry link - I can see I will get better and more berries doing some things differently with my plants!

I think I would have to go before. I get off work at 6, but can probably sneak out early, go home and chase the dog around the yard a few laps and then head over to Neo Monde for a bite (6:45ish), then off to the lecture. I'm hoping to get the names of all the fancy bushes he has. I get so drawn to the perennials I forget to write down the bushes and trees. If "after" is more in line with everyone's schedule then I will eat something while I chase the dawg and then do dessert at Neo.

This is great information. Thanks for posting! Cameron

I can sympathize. I have a new bunny that just moved into the side beds. We spotted it last weekend when I was watering a few pots and the spray from the hose must have startled it into moving. My husband and I thought we had it pinned down when it scooted into a hole in the drystack stone wall that borders that part of the garden. So my husband got a bright idea to try and smoke it out. I stood on the opposite side of the wall, ready with rake, while he started a small leaf fire in the middle of the Salvia puberala. There was plenty of smoke, but the only thing that stuck a body part out on my side was a copperhead. It was the tail end, thank goodness, so he stepped on it to pin it down and then pulled steadily until it relaxed enough to pull the rest out. So the rabbit still runs free, and now I jump every time I catch a glimpse of skink in the wall out of the corner of my eye. I hope Salvia puberala doesn't mind ash.