Thanks yet again. For some reason I cannot open phoenixpermaulture website. The other two were interesting ones. 1/ Seedlings As for the seedlings, today I took my seedlings on the roof top for the early morning sun for 1 hour and put them inside a plastic sheet (not so clear though - will get a clear one). The temperature then was not more than 75 when I moved them back inside. Right now I have put them on my eastern window - which fortunately or unfortunately does not receive any direct sunlight. Light is fair enough however. Enough to be able to read and write easily. Is the above schedule going to be ok for approx. 3 weeks? What else can I do? or am I doing extra? For how much time the seedlings should be in the dark every day? 2/ Plants I also had bought two small plants (approx 6 inches) - 2 tomatoes and 1 pepper (dont know which variety) and they have been under my care for approx. 2 weeks now. I transplanted them in bigger pots of 14" and 10" respectively. Depending on the temperature and the heat of the sun, I place the plants under 50% shade (my wife helps me as I am usually out for work :) ). This may start from 10 am if it gets to around 90F by that time. While the pepper is going good, I am not particularly happy with the tomato plants, as they seem to be showing signs of yellow leaves - Am I over watering them? Its almost 48 hours since I have not watered them as I can feel moisture beneath 2 inches of soil. While this tells me not to water, but my heart tells me to water them. Today I just did not listened to my heart. I hope this should not be too much stress for the plants :) Previously I use to water at least once a day. But then the pepper plant has not shown any yellow leaves as yet. I haven't fertlized them as yet - I believe the potting soil is fertlized enough to last for a month (that's what the nursery guy told me). To be very frank with you - I am still not able to understand the delicate balance between under and over watering. I was advised to be titled towards under watering when in doubt - but in this heat, should we do that? Probably, by putting the shades, I am bring the heat down and thereby the soil moisture is not evaporating as it would otherwise do. 3/ While I do put the plants under 50% shade (and sometimes double 50% shade - I did these a week back when the temperatures used to go upto 105). I am just thinking whether light through the 50% shade, is it enough for both the tomatoes and pepper sun loving plants to fruit later? When they say 6-8 hours of direct sunlight for tomatoes and pepper, does that mean direct unobstructed sunlight???? 4/ As for fertilization, I dont have quite a lot of option - either those NPK pellets or composted cow manure. The nursery guy tells me to sprinkle composted cow manure (his preference) over the soil once every month - but I am not quite sure about his ability / experience with container vegetables. What would you advise? How about composted cow manure tea as part of each watering or some other periodical watering? 5/ The potting soil that I use does drain but then how to measure its drainage effectiveness. What is the yardstick to measure it. When I water it for 30 seconds continuously, it starts to drain from the bottom holes but not like running water - just drop by drop - each of the 6-8 holes start dripping. Now this drop by drop could go on for an hour or two. The dripping speed may be high to start with but slows down as time passes. Does this mean the soil is good enough? Isn't that excess water sitting there for 2 hours inside the container harmful for the roots. Did that cause the signs of over watering / yellowing of leaves to appear on the tomato leaves? 6/ Unfortunately, at the moment, in my apartment there is no provision for florescent lights. I was however, thinking of putting four 20W CFL bulbs - two warm and two cool. How far should they be from the top of the seedlings? Is 80W going to be enough? How long the seedling should be sitting in light? And can the CFL be installed top down (standing upside down) rather than left right (laying)? Sorry for asking you so many question in just one post. I hope you don't mind that. Your much appreciate help awaited. Thanks and best regards Saood This post was edited by saood on Tue, Oct 1, 13 at 6:37

I think in the desert you have to be more creative when it comes to picking flowers that are heat and drought tolerant and 'look like' they come from a cottage garden. Im trying the same thing in southwestern utah. Im sad not to be able to grow foxglove, but I can grow lots of roses, daylilies, alyssum, larkspur AND I can start them earlier and keep them later than many other climates :) Theres an advantage you know!

Would you be interested in having two separate desert gardening forums? We need your opinions on this. It would be a High Desert Forum and a separate Low Desert Forum. We want to ask GW to rename & expand the old forums. Ex: Southwest & Xeric forum, Arizona, Nevada and Utah. Please let us know what you think on this forum posting or on the Arizona post. Thanks!

I feel the same way as warmfridge. It takes forever for anything to load. It's very frustrating. But in the couple of years that I've been here, it's always been one problem after another. Always. It is my opinion that the powers that be are so greedy that they give the members crappy software, worse tech support, and clearly have no interest in making meaningful improvements. It is the members who provide the posts, the ideas, the writing, the words. Consider Buehl, among others. She gives so much to these forums. Her advice would be worth real money in a different world. Tripadvisor.com is as busy as these forums are, but they don't screw up repeatedly, if ever. Their tech services support their members and provide trouble free (what's the word?) stuff. I always looked forward to garden webbing but have been so disappointed, and I, too, don't have the patience, or even interest, anymore. Losing valuable threads where so many members gave so much of themselves-so much time, effort and heart. "Search" is a vile joke. We must google to search. Are the high priced help truly that incompetent? Clearly, yes.