Never heard of it, so I looked it up on HMF - what a gorgeous rose! Hope someone who grows it can advise. Jackie

"When identifying roses, the blossom is only c. 25% of the criteria" my Old Rose mentor told me. I've found this to be true when Identifying Old Roses in a public garden. The foliage and armature make up for a large part of identification. I identified a 'Crimson Glory' that was on my property when I bought it by comparing it with two roses in my neighbors garden; 'Chrysler Imperial' and 'Crimson Glory'. Crimson Glory' has a weak neck, which allows the bloom to nod on the bush and show its "face", its' terminal leaflet on a mature leaf is broader than that on C.I.. I believe your rose is 'Crimson Glory'. Because if you look at the leaf on the right edge of the bush, near the middle of the photo border, and look at the; -terminal leaflet, which is the leaflet on the tip of this 5 leafleted leaf, you can see that it has the typical broad middle that 'Crimson Glory' shows. The petals of Crimson Glory' I believe, have a bit more substance than the petals of C.I.. as well, which makes for a heavy bloom, which sometimes causes Crimson Glory' nod its' head, when it is fully open. Substance is the thickness of a petal. Some call this a "weak neck" but I see it as an advantage because one can view the entire "face" of the rose. It is one of the best red roses ever bred, for beauty and fragrance. Luxrosa.

Nice pics of your roses! Thanks for sharing...

I have spent the day looking at photos of burgundy/crimson/purple roses in Google images. The rose is shaped like the Royal William rose, but it is darker and more purple. The candidates are Papa Meilland, Burgundy Ice, Deep Secret, Blackberry Nip (the right color, but maybe only available in New Zealand), Big Purple, and Black Velvet. I'm pretty sure now that the rose is a Hybrid Tea rose because it is very big. If anyone would know which among these roses would be the largest, that might help me. I'm afraid the cutting is toast - it got a mold on it and I don't know if I can save it. If you know of any other possible candidates not mentioned here, that would also be very helpful.