Northeast 'no spray' rose growers - help narrow my list?
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Comments (52)Well, yesterday I went to a rose nursery and by their calculations I can fit more roses in my bed by staggering the plantings into two rows. Plus, I fell in love with a few. So I have bought and/or ordered the following: -Duchesse de Brabant (I stopped my car when I saw one while driving and found out what it was, and it was still calling my name when I found it at the nursery; I'll just have to be diligent about keeping her size checked) -Monsieur Tillier -Buff Beauty -Cl. Cramoisi Superieur -Souvenir de la Malmaison -Pink Gruss an Aachen -Belinda's Dream -free rooted rose cuttings of Crepuscule I've put a last-minute request to RU to add Rosette Delizy to my order though I don't know yet if they'll be able to get it to me or not. And I just saw on a different thread that Vintage is offering the apricot climber Mme Jules Gravereaux so that might be added in too. Ah, the joys of enabling! More colors, and roses then I anticipated! But I'm sure I'll be over the moon when they start blooming... And by the way, I believe Soleil d'Or is the notorious baller....See MoreHow many no spray rose growers...
Comments (24)I have about 200 roses, a mix of OGRs and modern roses. While recently, hybridizers have worked harder at breeding disease resistance into roses, most modern roses require protection regular protection from BS and occasional protection from other fungus diseases. A lot of the OGRs, however, will florish with little or no spray. I will vote wholeheartedly on the side of good health, good soil making a difference. I would like to add that a good clone of the plant makes a hugh difference also. I can vouch for Red Cascade (my husband's favorite rose - just don't plant it by the front door), Marie Pavie, Gruss an Aachen, Lynnie (Ashdown), Carefree Sunshine (by the hybidizers of Knockout--absolutely the cleanest rose I have ever seen, doesn't even get the fall crude as Knockouts sometimes do), Souv. de un Ami, Clementina Carbonieri, Maggie, Comtessa de Cayla, the Buck, Prairie Squire (big shrub), the climbers, New Dawn and Awakening (a sport of New Dawn). Some roses that do well with minimu spraying are Hot Cocoa, Gourmet Popcorn, most of the Buck roses, The English Miss, Belinda's Dream, Playgirl and Playboy, Mellow Yellow. In my garden, the teas tend to be robust and carefree. The Buck roses are robust and need very little care. Based on that general experience, I keep adding them to my garden. I've found one or two specimens that didn't measure up, but exploring the tea list and Buck list from RosesUnlimitedOwnRoot and Ashdown Roses is a great way to have fun, grow fragrant easy care roses and become obsessed for life....See MoreHelp me narrow down my choices to find a Exhibition type Red Rose
Comments (14)Thanks everyone for helping me narrow down my options, and for your great suggestions. So many names so little room in my yard! I really appreciate the great pictures as well. Amazing how many of you guys put in a word for Veterans' honor! Of all those suggested, it got 6/8 votes. It must be a heck of a rose, now I must give it a try. I look forward to testing its' longevity. I've searched other posts here and there seems to have always been favoritism towards Veterans' honor and Ingrid Bergman. Those must be some solid red roses. My take is that Veterans' honor would look better for its single blooms while Ingrid Bergman bush as whole would look great in the landscape-which would be nice to have since my Mister Lincolns are so Tall and Lanky looking. It is amazing the variety available for a "red" rose. Thanks everyone....See MoreNeed help narrowing rose wishlist
Comments (35)I'd like to echo what Sylvia said. I know many teas don't stay within your size range, but try Faith Whittlesey if you like perfect white roses that stay perfectly clean. It is a frequent and heavy bloomer, one of the heaviest of my roses that aren't polyanthas. For me, this rose stays 2 ft. or so because it is tender and I suspect I'm on the edge of where it will winter over. I do grow other teas but this one is tender even for a tea. You shouldn't have any problem in zone 8 losing cane to cold temps but I don't think this rose is ever going to be huge. I'm not sure how they are as cut flowers because I rarely cut my roses. No blackspot even when everything else is spotty and I do grow no spray. I don't have mildew or rust so can't comment on those. Fragrance isn't its strong suit most of the time. To me it smells like tobacco. However, in early fall it will sometimes pick up a wonderful fragrance- maybe like ripe fruit. I'm bad at describing scent but that's the best I can do. BTW, while I'm not z8, I grow a number of the other roses on your list. Everything is own-root at this time. I'm probably one of the few people on the planet that struggles with Quietness and Julia Child and Bolero is only so-so. Easy Does It is doing well. This is it's 3rd season but the first one out of a pot. It's healthy mostly and not shy about blooming. I don't remember its scent. I gave up on Austins. They just aren't happy here with my climate and soil and being grown no spray. Most died or were given away when they were struggling even in a pot. Exception is Munstead Wood. He's an odd thorny duck but his flowers are fragrant and he grows acceptably no-spray for me. Distant Drums does well for me. Occasional blackspot but grows past it. This rose benefits from being grown like a tea for me- full sun, excellent drainage, especially in winter, and sheltered from cold winter wind. Flowers are really wonderful and smell nice but do have a hint of myrrh. I can grow everything from the SdlM family and currently have Mystic Beauty, Souvenir de St. Anne's and cl. SdlM which is only about a yr. here. All are clean for me and most would rather bloom than grow. Flowers are memorable. Scent is a bit like grandmother's old-fashioned face powder to me. Hope this helps....See Moreratdogheads z5b NH
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