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Size and growth habit of these hybrid musks?

11 years ago

I need to move a Prosperity that wants to be a fountain and is getting too big for it's narrow spot (against a fence). It is a great rose, a gift from Jim East Coast (who hasn't posted in a while - I hope he's OK). I have a big spot to move it to but wonder how tall it will get unsupported.

I have a Felicia that needs a home but am really unsure about it's growth habit. Does it fountain? If not could put it in Prosperity's old spot and maybe try to pillar it. I have a Cornelia that is very tall and narrow (but I may have gotten these two mixed up when planting.

Thanks

Maureen

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melissa_thefarm
11 years ago
'Felicia' in my experience is relatively upright and shrubby, but my plants aren't grown well. 'Cornelia' is a flopper, low, lax, and much wider than tall, unless you give it support, of course, or train it for example on a wall. 'Cornelia' shares this habit with 'Pax', 'Buff Beauty', and 'Moonlight'.
If your roses have bloomed by now, you will recognize 'Cornelia' by the pale strawberry pink of its flowers--'Felicia's are soft rose pink, a cooler tone--and by 'Cornelia's dark red new growth and slender dark pointed leaves, as well as by its long canes and lax habit.
I'm not acquainted with 'Prosperity'.
I hope this helps.
dublinbay z6 (KS)
11 years ago
Can't tell you about Prosperity, but I did grow Pink Prosperity which I understood to be quite similar to Prosperity--other than the pink color. My Pink Prosperity got 4-5 ft tall and was wider than tall. Graceful fountain shape. Unfortunately, it then got RRD and had to be spaded.

Although I am also in Zone 6, I'm in the midwst and not in your region. Don't know how much regional differences might affect Prosperity.

Kate
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Original Author
11 years ago
Melissa - the rose that needs a home may well be Cornelia. It gets so little sun that it only had a few blooms. I must have gotten it mixed up with Felicia.

Kate - I too have had problems with RRD and I just noticed that my Propsperity has some odd growth (some thick laterals). If it is RRD I won't have to worry about where to put it :(

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