Mme Alfred Carriere - final size in UK?
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Madame Alfred Carriere
Comments (19)Hello again Mountie, This is my neighbour's Madame Alfred Carrière - I realise that there's no indication of scale here but the flowers are at about my head height (I'm 1.65m tall - about 5 ft 6 in). Her home is a watchtower built in the 12th century and the stone wall you see in the photo is a supporting wall for her courtyard. In fact, the bottom of the iron balustrade you see in the photo is more than 3 metres above the level where the rose is planted. The idea is that by next Summer she will be able to train some of the canes of MAC along this iron balustrade (which is on one side of her entrance courtyard. I will post a separate photo of my 'rustic arbour' so you can see how much it has grown this year. Cheers Tricia...See MoreEden, Mme Alfred Carriere, Aimee Vibert
Comments (5)Interesting. I already grow MAC, which is a lovely rose, but I have room for one more climber and I was considering Eden. I have seen two specimens here in Southern California. One is at The Huntington Library and Gardens and the other is at a local nursery called Persson's. The one at Persson's looks very old, with the main cane probably 6 inches in diameter or more. At least right now they are both covered in blooms that are gorgeous! I am very surprised to hear that the blooms won't open here, especially given the rather cool and wet spring we have had! Another reason I liked Eden is that, as old as the plant is, it seems rather small. MAC, as mentioned, is gigantic. Eden gets very large HT sized blooms which remind me of Moonstone and a lot of them....See MoreEden Climber or Mme. Alfred Carriere
Comments (11)Eden AKA "Pierre de Ronsard" also balls in our wet weather (also from Vancouver area) though otherwise healthy. So it's best to be planted with it's feet in soil that get rain (further from the house) but the main body can lean back against the house so that the eaves prevent too much rain getting onto the rose buds. It is not fragrant but to my eyes the bloom form and color makes my heart skip a beat. MAC is a fine rose and is vigorous, however, she just doesn't do it for me. They were both planted on either side of my front entrance at my previous house and after I moved I missed Eden so much I acquired another plant for my new house whereas I don't really miss MAC. It's all in the eye of the beholder though so I say try both!...See MoreMadame Alfred Carriere rose Grown in a pot
Comments (25)There's more than one way to cook an egg... so to speak... and of course it's folly to ask gardeners in other countries, especially those from warm climates, how they grow a particular rose, because it's difficult to relate to that.. So whilst she may look best, i.e. with maximum bloom output, on a 30 foot wall, or a 50 foot tree, these are not the only ways we can grow it.. So when you tire of your potted rose.. it should be good for a couple of seasons and give you a few nice blooms.. you will then want to transfer it to the ground I expect.. this can be done with little space available, by using 3 posts and rope swaggers, across a 20-25 foot span... the rose is placed against the central post, trained up and then right and left along ropes... this gives a more genteel, quintessential English style look to our gardens, and blends well with usually green summer lawns.. All the growth is up in the air... high enough so you could walk under it.. Another way is to grow it as a tree rose but much larger than a Standard... a member in Copenhagen on Instagram grows it this way, like a small tree... This garden near me has it on posts and ropes... I don't like the yellow Golden Showers mixed in, I wouldn't have done that.. I think clematis on each end post would be better... but you could take this as a single element and place it in most smallish gardens with a 30 foot width... the posts taking up little room.. Pruning and controlling are key elements.....See More- 9 years ago
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