Best Climber--Penelope, Pax, Felicia, Moonlight?
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Comments (47)Well, my Bubblebath turned out to be mislabelled (I think it's actually Cornelia) so that's not a good data point. I've planted all my bands directly into the ground. I like to order/put them in around September when we start to get decent rain. They go dormant and grown roots all winter, then really take off in the spring. I've planted well over 100 roses this way, and only lost a few (and those looked like the roots were really too tiny for them to have been sold.) It probably all depends on where you live and what your soil & weather conditions are. I put some in later this spring due to some various sales, and they haven't done nearly as well as the fall planted bands. Of course, we've been having ridiculously dry weather--only about 1/3" total rain for the last 3 months, and NOTHING is like rain for watering the plants....See MoreYour top ten roses - anything goes
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Comments (21)Just wanted to post an update. I got Penelope from Palatine. Only time will say, if this experiment would work, i.e. growing shade tolerant roses in shade. I honestly can't say how much sunlight it receives, but I can affirm that it is less than "part shade", more or less dappled shade. The shade is due to a sprawling Manitoba Maple and a dense cherry tree, which I hope some day to have pruned. However by September, Penelope should be receiving much more sunlight... The plant for the time being is around 3 feet tall with 3 main branches. We had a lot of rain in June (every 2nd day) and rather cool temperatures. To my surprise, several weeks ago, I saw flower buds on all branches. And she flowered on July 1st. This is one of the most beautiful roses, I've ever seen. So many variations going from the most delicate pink to pure white. For the time being there is a very light fragrance. If I recall well, my Felicia didn't have much scent the first year. Thanks again all.... Penelope's maiden bloom........See MoreCornelia vs Felicia HMs
Comments (12)I love the Pemberton Hybrid Musks but don't grow them well; the main problem, I think, is that I've neglected to give them the maintenance pruning they require. You have to cut out old canes regularly. They're roses for people who love good foliage, graceful habit, and scent, and don't demand large blooms or strong colors. 'Cornelia' when well grown is in my opinion one of the most beautiful roses in existence, with lovely foliage, habit, and a sweet scent that carries. It has a lax habit and can be grown as a floppy shrub, with support, or as a small climber. Similar in habit are 'Buff Beauty', 'Pax', 'Moonlight', and 'Kathleen'. 'Felicia' is shrubbier and less distinctive in character. I've never grown it well, so can't judge its beauty, but I grow it very willingly because it has one of the finest scents of all roses: old rose mixed with musk sweetness, carrying on the air. In our climate, with our heavy soil and good annual rainfall, the Hybrid Musks can go without summer watering, though of course they won't flower in dry conditions. As best as I can judge, given my relative lack of success growing them, in a hot dry climate they like cooler and moister conditions and part shade. Our neighbors grow 'Cornelia' very well espaliered against a wall that looks northwest. All this has reminded me that some time in my life I need to find a place that Hybrid Musks might like, prepare it really well, and then grow them there. Make them a little garden. Heaven knows the last thing I need is another project, but I would like to see them in their glory. My favorites are 'Cornelia', 'Pax', 'Francesca', 'Vanity', 'Kathleen', and 'Felicia' for fragrance. 'Penelope' is also very good: for some reason I tend to forget it. Also 'Buff Beauty', which many people love. 'Pax' is a very elegant rose for its long buds and the contrast between their whiteness and the dark leaves. The fully open flowers are less exciting, but they're fragrant and the plant has the usual graceful habit and good foliage....See Morebluegirl_gw
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