Are you drawn to a certain color of rose?
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Curious about certain own-root roses
Comments (25)Sara Ann, I am no expert but I can speak from personal experience. For me the advantage to own root roses is they usually grow more leaves at the bottom of the plant so that the rose is less likely to have "bare legs' (canes). The plants tend to be fuller for me when mature. I like grafted roses when I need more vigor to establish a rose quickly. Many modern hybrid tea, grandiflora and floribunda roses are only available grafted because they lack the vigor to easily establish themselves own root. Some are available eventually own root if they are vigorous enough. Some examples are Icebergs, Julia Child, Livin' Easy, Gertrude Jekyll, Golden Celebration, Carefree Beauty, Bonica, etc. These more modern roses are available both own root and grafted. My goals, my past personal results and the shared experiences of those who are kind enough to share their thoughts and are more talented than I (like Kathy and Catsrose), help me to optimize my results. What I have heard many times on this and other forums is what does not work for many others in your climate zone most likely will not work for you. So I try to pick wisely and hopefully end up dealing with fewer problems. Sometimes advice is also not "absolute" as my results vary somewhat from the experiences of others. The answer to your question is "it depends" on your goal(s) for growing your roses. Personally, I have different motives depending on my goal for a particular area of my yard. I don't spray and I try to garden organically so I try to pick roses that are capable of thriving without protection. This limits my choices a lot but I am not exhibiting roses and I like not having to spray regularly. I have an area where I am growing all grafted modern hybrid teas along a fence. I was looking for high vigor, immediate bloom production and plants that would establish themselves quickly. I planted companion plants around them to cover any bare legs. In pots, I like own root roses when I can get them because in my experience they are fuller, better looking bushes when mature. I have to be more patient with them because they take some time to build out as previously mentioned by Kathy and Catsrose. All of my Old Garden or Antique roses, like Reve d'Or, Reine de Violettes, Maman Cochet, Mon. Tillier, etc. are own roots because they grow vigorously that way and they are widely available for purchase. I have areas of my yard that are all own root old garden roses and some that are all grafted more modern roses. Most of the old garden varieties are widely available own root but can be ordered grafted from specialty nurseries willing to graft plants for you, like Burlington in Ca. If I had the goal of huge plants and larger flowers, had a lot more space and did not mind staking them I would choose roses that are available grafted on Fortuniana root stock. I like seeing pictures of mature whole plants to see how they look and with further research about what grows well in my local climate shared by others on this site and Help Me Find I believe I am making better decisions when deciding what to plant where. I believe more gardeners today are 'requesting' own root roses and the growers are now responding by offering those varieties that can be grown either way. That's not to say own root is better than grafted but it's really up to you based on your gardening goals. I also personally believe it's cheaper in the long run for the grower to produce own root roses if the plants mature fast enough. The growers have to be careful that the casual gardener does not judge their roses negatively if a neighbor is growing the same rose grafted and their bush is performing better so the growers pick and choose those varieties where the difference is minimal. Good luck and happy gardening.... Lee This post was edited by leezen4u on Wed, Sep 25, 13 at 14:52...See MoreWhich Rose(s) are you Coveting?
Comments (23)Canary Bird, both the yellow sweetbriar and the hybrid xanthina. The sweetbrier doesn't appear to have made it to the USA yet. The hybrid xanthina is very difficult to find here. Rotes Phänomen, the purple/red rugosa, it is purple/red everywhere, including the stamens and inside the canes. R. foetida--the single form, I have the double 'Persiana' and love it. Nothing in rosedom more yellow! Schoener's Nutkana, which is a cross between the California native species R. nutkana and the hybrid perpetual Paul Neyron. SN was bred in California. Large plant and flowers (single medium to dark pink), repeat blooming in my area (botanic garden), shade tolerant, few thorns, lots of hips. And rust resistant unlike its parent Paul Neyron. R. hemisphaerica, the sulphur rose. Packed with petals. Very hard to get! Rosa cannabifolia, the hemp-leaved rose. A beautiful, and primitive, rare alba. Flowers look similar to R. fortuniana. White double flowers. Schön Ingeborg, an absolutely gorgeous light pink hybrid perpetual that Cliff Orent imported. Now to be found sporadically at Palatine. Very double. Suzanne, a double light pink spinisissima with the beautiful small foliage of that species. Gets big and bushy. Looks graceful and primitive. Missed getting it from Pickering (they sold out) a few years ago, then they dropped it from their catalog. Was on the waiting list at High Country Roses but their mother plant died. R. beggeriana, its big and bushy, with single white flowers, and reblooms. Produces plentiful black/purple hips which are good for wildlife. From hot, dry areas of the world. Lemon Light, a yellow seedling of the enormous tree-eating Kiftsgate but not quite as large. Used to be in the catalogs of Heirloom (and not seen anywhere else). Hope they offer it again. R. glutinosa, the pine-scented rose, a pink single. I like roses with either unusual scents in the foliage or flowers. Forestfarm grows it, but is out-of-stock. I've asked them to propagate it, so maybe 2014! Buttercup, a small yellow Austin, with flowers that resemble buttercups. I want it, but I don't want the RMV that would be inevitable should I purchase direct from Austin. Not readily available elsewhere, especially from any that virus index. R. horrida, it is, as its name implies, a horrible little thing! Loaded with thorns, the beasty suckers like mad, and thus appeals to me. White single flowers, sets copious hips. Good for wildlife food and safe haven. From the Caucasus. Paul Délépine, a stunning small polyantha I saw at Eurodesert. It is a sort of purpley pink. Very floriferous. Yellow Blush, a light yellow alba. Very double. I'll probably have to wait a good long time before this one is available.... Domine Sampson, a short light pinky lilac marbled hybrid spinossima. Melissa Here is a link that might be useful: Rotes Phänomen...See MoreEver become Obsessed! with a certain color?
Comments (30)Tiffany, I see you saw....on the Blue-gray study thread. And no, it doesn't look anything like Pewter. Maybe your monitor? And maybe today I can get the curtains hemmed while my virus percolates (home from work sick!) and post a new photo. Lori, to clarify: My Ben Moore 'knockoff' was simply having them mix up their Farrow & Ball Pigeon formula in BM Regal paint. By the time I decided on the color, I had no time to wait for a gallon of paint to arrive in my mailbox! And isn't it just crazy how much time/thought/money we can all give to a paint color? I remember in my early-married days wanting some antique furniture. I was totally obsessed with that. I remember being completely immersed in fabrics.....both for sewing drapes, bedding, baby room stuff, and clothing. But wall paint was not a big issue for me. I mostly lived with whatever was already on the walls. If I lived in an apartment or rented house now, I would go crazy trying to convince the landlord to let me paint. But when we got a cute little house in 1980 and the landlord said........Knock yourselves out! We just went and looked at chips and chose them. Right there at the store. No samples. We didn't even bring them home to view in the house. We just mixed paint and painted. Now, I spend some time every month visualizing going blue green somewhere else.... Red...See MoreDA roses to carry based on certain criteria?
Comments (6)I am in a much different zone than you are. I grow several DA roses and have for years. I grow on own root as my grafted roses pretty much reverted to root stock and I had to dig them out earlier this year. Princess Alexandra of Kent One of my favorites. Gets to be a monster and I think she would rather be a climber in my hot, hot weather. She keeps pumping out blooms even when she get reflected sun and it is 114 degrees outside. I love her huge beautiful blooms. One of Austin's best. She has canes over 8 feet now and I just cut her back a bit to keep her in line. I am expecting great blooms on her until I prune her in late December. I had Sharifa Asma. I loved that rose but she was in the same area as the root stock invasion so she had to go. I probably grew her for about 13 years or longer. She takes a long break between blooms. She doesn't seem to like our heat all that well either. I have no issues with black spot or other diseases where I live so I can't answer any questions re: how she does with them. I also don't spray and grow organically (for what that is worth) She stayed rather small for an Austin here. She was about 3--4 feet wide and about 3 feet tall. The first time I saw her in bloom, I was ready to pull out all my other roses and grow nothing but her. She is that beautiful. Scent to die for too. I miss her a lot. Other DA roses I highly recommend (and remember I am in a very different zone than you are) would be Brother Cadfael (grows very tall and upright), not a great rebloomer and prefers cooler weather than where I live. However, big, beautiful flower and a scent to make you swoon! I would also second Munstead Wood. One of Austin's best. Gets to be big in my climate. Canes are about 5 feet long or so. Blooms when it is hot. He is just something else. Flowers will go from florescent dark pink to maroon depending on how old they are and the time of the year. I am looking at a big bouquet of them as I type and they are the deepest maroon, practically black. Gorgeous! I also love Pretty Jessica. She stays about 4 feet tall and about 2--3 feet wide. Very upright. Great blooms and does well with heat. Good rebloom as well. That is her in the far left in the picture. I have also grown other Austins. I have Lady of Shalott. Not too wild about her, yet. Hasn't really done much of anything, however this is her first year, so I will patiently wait for her to grow up a bit. Very bright orange flowers that I hope will tone down with time. Lady Emma Hamilton couldn't take the heat here and died. Alnwick has not done much of anything, but again, first year, own root. I wish his flowers were bigger. Sister Elizabeth--not much of anything. Looks like she will stay small for an Austin. Again, first year, own root so we will wait and see. Just got Mary Magdalene, so can't say much about her as of yet. Emily--really can't get that rose here anymore. Very small for an Austin. About a foot high and a foot wide. Not good repeat. I keep her for sentimental reasons. Mary Webb--very few nurseries carry her. Small for an Austin. About 3 feet tall and wide. Very pale yellow flowers that fade to white immediately. Not great rebloom either. Ambridge Rose--reverted back to rootstock after 15 years of so. Smallish for an Austin. About 3 feet tall and wide. Great blooms. Not wild about the scent. Fair rebloom. Evelyn--gets to be a bit of a monster here. Tall (about 6 feet or so). Upright. Poor rebloom. Beautiful flowers and a scent to die for. I do miss her as well. She reverted back to rootstock after having her for 10 plus years. Jude the Obscure--is now very obscure. I did not like that fickle rose. Rarely bloomed here. Nothing to write home about. Never did see what the hoopla was all about for that rose. He is out of my garden. Peach Blossom--a nice pink semi double. Always the first to bloom and the last to bloom in my yard. Makes great hips and a great rose. Loved her. A bird decided to plant another plant in the middle of her so unfortunately, she also had to go this year. She was very pretty. So those are my run down. Heritage was also beautiful but couldn't take my heat. Good luck with whatever roses you decide to get....See Moredublinbay z6 (KS)
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