i wouldn't call 6 hrs sun shade. i have 5 red meidilands that get part sun and they are pretty vigorous. they are called prostrate or groundcover roses, but i like to call them horizontal climbers.

Thank you both very much.

Len horizontal climbers eh? Care to share a picture?

Kate

this one grows thru the sage
{{gwi:311789}}

if you can see this one it throws canes over the lavender, through a cecille brunner and one between robusta and cecille
{{gwi:311790}}

Well those were great. I was better able to see in the second one but very nice. Tough little roses I would say. Thanks for those Len.

Kate

HI Kate,
I think 6-7 hours of sun should be good for most Roses, and I've heard from some old timers that morning sun is best.
Don't know if that's true but I do think you have enough.

Hey Chuck:

You know I'm starting to think that is true. This year we added a rose bed in the front yard and expanded our perennial bed in back to include roses. In back the roses get great morning sun, a little bit of early afternoon sun and then are shaded by my birch tree and the neighbors cherry and apple trees. By far the roses in back are doing better. Of course I realize there could be other factors like the quality of the soil in back etc., But my husband and I seriously mulling over adding a tree that will grow fairly large in front to create a kinder late afternoon environment for the roses in the new bed that gets all day exposure.

I used to think the maximum amount of sun for roses was the best but this summer has made me re evaluate that concept.

Thanks.

Kate

Here in roasting-hot Texas I am leaning more and more toward part shade for lots of plants that are full-sun elsewhere. Iris, for example, and roses, and for sure hydrangeas. They seem to survive better. I know I wouldn't want to stand outdoors in full sun all day in this climate!!

I have a nice row of Ruby Meidilands in afternoon sun. In the morning, they get shade from the house, but most get full sun from noon until sunset. A few are getting a little more shade than that, because of a small crabapple tree nearby. They're doing fine with afternoon sun and morning shade. These have been in the ground for six years.

{{gwi:233359}}

Thanks PrairieLaura. Sounds like you are reaching a similar conclusion to mine. That protection from the afternoon scorching is a good thing for a lot of our plants.

Stevation those are stunning. Great picture. Thanks for the information and that shot. Lovely.

Kate

We have quite a few roses in locations where they get sun all morning, but none p.m.
They seem to be pretty happy with that situation.
The only one that has had a problem is a rose which lost all of its sunshine
to an old, unkempt pineapple guava on the neighbor's land.
That one, we finally moved.
It was that, or take a chain saw to the pineapple guava.

Jeri

Thanks Jeri.

You know the first rose I have planted to really do well in limited sun has been one you recommended to me (last year) and that's the rose 'Lamarque'. It really favors the gentle exposure it has and has grown cleanly in limited sun.

Kate