Great Perennials For shade and clay soil??
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Comments (16)Scarlet Oaks do nicely in slightly acidic clay soil. You found out when digging the hole, the fact that clay not only holds on to water very well, it also quickly releases the moisture it contains into voids in the soil. You dug a hole and not only the rain filled it with water, but all the water in the clay soil around the hole kept filling the hole until the water pressure in the hole became close to the same as the water pressure in the soil. Then as evaporation occurs the water which turns into vapor and rises away is replaced with more moisture from the soil, until there is not enough water in the clay soil to replace that which has evaporated. At that point the clay will begin to absorb enough of the water in the hole to once again bring the pressure of the water in the soil to be equal with the water pressure in the hole. Only once that process begins to happen will you be able to notice the water level in the hole beginning to lower. This is the very reason why it is a bad idea to dig a hole in clay, plant the tree, and backfill with a different kind of soil. In that case the backfill soil will remain full of water, not only from rain and your watering but also from being kept filled with water that the virgin clay soil is holding. The backfill soil needs to be the same as the virgin soil which came out of the hole. By doing so the pressures remain more even and the there is much less of a void in to soil situation presented. This is also why it is bad to plant a root ball that is full of potting soil directly into clay. Instead as much as possible of the potting soil need to be washed away from the rootball mass and refilled with the virgin clay soil as what is found around the planting hole. That is why it is best to plant trees when they are in their dormant stage. If for any reason you want to amend the clay soil where your tree is to be planted, there must be amendment fairly evenly mixed into the virgin soil for a very wide spreading area. The more clay ratio in the virgin soil the farther spreading you planting bed needs to be that you amend. The amended area needs to be at least 6 times, if not more the width of the tree's rootball. Also, plant the tree with the rootflare about 3 to 4 inches above the soil level. After the tree is securely planted, and staked if needed, only then back fill the exposed 3-4 inches of raised rootball with a good quality and fairly finely shredded cedar mulch. Just make certain you do not pile any mulch above the topmost part of the rootflare. The trunk should not appear to look more like a post sticking out of the ground. Instead you should be able to just see where the topmost part of the root flare is growing out of the trunk. Finally never pile any mulch all the way against the trunk, make certain to leave all mulch at least 4 or more inches away from the base of the tree's trunk....See MorePerennial ground cover/ full sun /clay soil/ Blue flowers
Comments (14)You know, that's a really compact clump of yucca- instead of fighting it, why not use it along with the cedar and other shrub as winter backbone? They do have nice fragrant white blooms in summer. If it were spread out or a huge clump, i'd fuss with it, but if you're wanting to make life simple... leave it be. I'd say it depends on the compost whether you till it in. If it seems like it has a good bit of earthy stuff for the plants to dig into, then no, but if it's more top dressing stuff, perhaps till in half and top with compost. The quality can vary year to year and by the time of year, depending on what they are shredding and composting. If you're in wake co, you will need to find a truck/hauler to haul it for you, but the compost itself is fairly cheap- like 30 a big truckload full. City runs 2 for 1 specials sometimes, too. Meaning pay for 1 load, get the second free that same day- but you'd still need to pay for hauling. You could do a lasagna type bed- layer on newspaper, ect, and build up with out messing with tilling at all. There's been a good bit posted about it, and there are at least 2 books. It really does work if you have a little patience/time. There is a thread for the swap on the exchanges forum. It should have the where what when info- tho i can tell you quickly it's may 8th, at white deer park in garner. Doesn't matter if you're a newb. We always have some. Just bring some good food and anything you have to spare that you think gardeners could use- pots, hoses, rocks, etc. Even shallow boxes would be appreciated as folks always need them to haul away their new found goodies....See MorePerennials that tolerate clay
Comments (2)Pat, My place is sited on a heavy, compacted clay loam over a thick almost impermeable layer of caliche/limestone down about 4 feet. Also, a lot of caliche is on the surface after 90 years of people doing various kinds of excavations and building driveways, tractor yards, etc. at this old farmstead The perennial wildflowers that survive here the best and that aren't too weedy are as follows: Chocolate Daisy (Berlandiera lyrata), Engelmann's Daiay (Engelmannia ?), and Mexican Hat. I have had a Calylophus species (hartweggii?) look really good, too. A couple of sub-shrubs give me the most reliable season-long color: Salvia greggii and Texas Lantana (Lantana horrida). Tom...See MoreFull Sun Perennial for Clay Soil Garden
Comments (8)You don't mention much about the soil other than it is clay. The first thing I do with a new bed is amend with compost, and in the case of clay, you might want to add some zeolite, greensand and lavasand to break up the hardpan nature of the clay. I can't imagine zinnias not doing well in full sun, but if the soil around them was bare maybe the roots were too hot. Did you use any mulch under the flowers? Something like small pine bark chips will help the soil conserve moisture and keeps the soil cooler. They also break down and add a nice tilth to the clay. Begonias are a shade plant and really can't take direct sun at all. If you have a location that only gets a little sun in the morning and is shaded the rest of the day, that's a good place for begonias. Another good plant that will love a hot sunny location is lantana. It's a Texas native, blooms all summer and gets to be about 15-20" tall. It comes in lots of different colors and will spread to cover a large area. Verbena is a sprawler and blooms all summer and part of the winter here too, but it's not very tall. Cheryl...See Morekimka
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