According the the HelpMeFind.com listing, Heirloom is the only source. It looks like a pretty rose: Here is a link that might be useful: Sunita

Just in looking at the pictures on HMF, it looks like the blooms on Cardinal Song are fuller, but it's hard to know for sure. The guy at the nursery saidit will spread and it won't get very tall, although it will get taller than Ralph's Creeper. Does anyone have Red Carpet Rose? I'm even wondering if it could be that. I have two Drift roses, which I think of being similar to Carpet Roses and the blooms on this are much bigger than the Drift or the Ralph's Creeper.

'White Cecile Brunner' is a good guess, and that was one I thought it might be - " but plantloverkat just reminded me that I did own 'Alister Stella Gray,' and lost track of it, and I think this is the rose. Looking at photos of both, it more resembles 'ASG' overall. The bud is exactly the same, and the flower, although more golden-looking in most of the photos (on HelpMeFind, anyway), also looks right. This is a good argument for TAGGING YOUR PLANTS. Especially since my roses are currently in a friend's yard... a friend who really likes to move plants around. I always think I'll remember who's who, but I don't always! So thanks very much for your help.

It is a dark red, once blooming, climber, prone to powdery mildew here in NJ. It isn't commonly for sale because it is so prevalent, it is the most common rootstock used in the US, and there is a lot of it growing around from plants that have suckered or reverted from the original variety to Dr. Huey. Vintage Gardens as it as a "custom root" which tickles me... Here is a link that might be useful: Dr. Huey at Vintage Gardens