Leonie Lamesch

9 years ago

This is another cutting I got from Linda. Is this one known for "rooting like a weed"?

The cuttings are a month old and these two little pots with this two look like small plants already. I hate to say a band looks good because that is almost surely the kiss of death for them or so it seems in my experience.

Does the bloom have kind of a splotchy look? It seems like most of the photos on HMF. There was also a question on an old thread about if it darkens as the bloom ages that was not answered.

In reading old threads about this rose, it seems like it does not like too dry or too much heat. Would it do better in the partial shade of an orange tree?

Thanks

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jerijen
9 years ago
The bloom is lovely. We no longer grow her because we didn't get enough bloom.

The colors are so vivid, they may not reproduce well, but in a cool coastal climate, they're lovely. OTOH -- as I said -- there just weren't all that many of them.

WONDERFUL fragrance. Complete disease-resistance.
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roseseek
9 years ago
Yes, they can be rather "splotchy". The plant IS healthy. It IS vigorous. It HATES dry and hot. The plant will grow well but the flowers fry as quickly as the heat and brilliant light hit them. Close relatives of Agalaia have petals which are just too soft for that kind of torture (another thing which leads me to believe Schmidt's Smooth Yellow is Eugenie Lamesch...the flowers fry immediately here just like Leonie's). I think it would definitely benefit from some filtered sun through the orange tree, particularly against afternoon heat. Also put it somewhere the water won't be interrupted. Aglaia offspring will quickly stop flowering if allowed to dry out. Kim
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odinthor
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LL is among my favorites. Yes, delightfully splotchy is what LL is all about, though that too can vary: Just last week, I had a blossom which was uniformly cherry-colored. I concur with what Jeri and Kim have stated, in all particulars. I'd add, however, that you need to be careful about any underground battle between the orange tree roots and the rose bush roots: I have a greedy Olive tree some twenty-five feet away which decided to send a big fat root straight over to LL territory. For a year, I wondered why LL was doing nothing, then had occasion to do some digging and found (and cut) the Olive root. Immediately, LL responded with growth and blooms.
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jerijen
9 years ago
Good point.

Our LL was, in fact, terrific for several years. A gopher got to it, and probably ate half the roots. The plant lived (the gopher did not) but it was never the same.

It seems to me that she can't tolerate interference with her roots. (And who could blame her?)
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Kippy
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9 years ago
Thank you all for the info! If it likes evenly damp roots and some shade, have I got perfect spots for it. With our townhouse neighbors on a well and watering their emerald green lawn like there is no drought, it can tuck right next to that fence in the shade and enjoy all the "free" water in my citrus tree row (on that fence line for the same reason :) )

What is the correct term for the look of the petals? I like the look of the foliage and interesting color and habit.
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jerijen
9 years ago
Well, I'd call it a red-yellow bicolor . . . but I'm sure there are other, more horticulturally-correct terms. :-)
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jacqueline9CA
9 years ago
I just went out and looked at mine. The buds are solid red, then when the blooms open they are red with yellow in the middle, then they change to dark pink with yellow, then pink with white. Sort of reminds me of the color progression on mutabilis, except that mutabilis' buds are solid yellow to start.

Jackie
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roseseek
9 years ago
Seven shades of copper. Kim
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