The Huntington, and Descanso, are different from each other and in general different from Nadia's location. Descanso in particular is an interesting case. Because it is in the foothills, at the lower end of the Angeles Crest, it is the recipient of some winter chill that most of SoCal does not get. (Cold air flows downhill, like water.) So, at Descanso, you can see a display of Gallicas and the like that most of Southern CA cannot offer. But they do funny things, too. I've photographed Rosa Mundi, blooming there in January. The Huntington is at the top of the San Gabriel Valley. Aside from the air pollution, the air is drier there, and a LOT hotter than areas nearer the coast. I grew up there, and I don't remember ever seeing either powdery mildew or rust. Jeri

poorbutroserich, I have yet to try a noisette. I have a few bourbons, a handful of hybrid perpetuals and a handful of Austins. I am interested in trying Noisettes but I am so unfamiliar with many of them and their growth habits etc. I fear most white roses in the intense heat areas as many of the blooms just do not stand up to it and burn. I have heard that Bolero and Kronprinzessin Victoria are heat tolerant. I had ruled out purple in this spot that will get a lot of summer heat because for some reason I had likened its performance to lavender, which I just cannot grow other than in a partial shade and morning sun only area or it just looks awful. I do not know why I made that assumption. I can only guess it is due to the horrid look of most lavender roses during the summer. Nanadoll, I purchased a Young Lycidas bareroot on Dr. Huey that will arrive this winter because I could not resist the beauty of it. It is going in a little micro climate I created in the front yard, but the back yard... I think it would look great next to MIP but I wish I knew it would survive and thrive. I am thinking that if the one in the front yard performs well, I might move the Pleasure to a pot or gift it, and plant a Y.L.i n its place. I really like the floppy canes and nodding heads in the right garden application. I find it very charming. Ingrid, La France is beautiful! How well does it hold its color during the summer?

I grow this rose, and love it. I have three Mme Pierre Ogers up by my front porch, and they perfume the front yard. They grow to about 5 feet tall by autumn, with a vase shaped growth habit. They repeat bloom nicely through summer and into autumn.

Try a search on helpmefind.com Here's a link: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php Just type in the name. They may list alternative names, but the description is for the same rose. Be sure to look at the ratings and comments. I can't believe you found it a Lowes. Where do you live?