Mlle. de Sombreuil/La Biche will like hot and dry, at least it does here. My two are spectacular..one being enormous in full sun and the other just half enormous in too much shade. It doesn't mind being pruned to fit the space.

Beauté Inconstante is not fond of the heat here. I've got it where it gets AM sun and PM shade..that helps some. The color is so unique and the spring flush alone makes it worth growing. The blooms fry in the heat of summer.

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I will offer this about pernetianas, Jerome. Touchy touchy touchy. They are famous for hating pruning and mysterious dieback. They love the heat. When they are on, they're on. For me, the few I can grow do best left to their own devices and not primped and pruned. Matisse's Mom can give you the best advice.

Providentially, Mlle. de Sombreuil ALSO tolerates my foggy coastal climate quite happily. NO foliage problems at all here. The best news is that in the fogbelt, the blooms have a beautiful, delicate color.

Jeri

Sombrieuil is in her first full year here and almost up to the top of the 6 ft fence. Lots of canes reaching straight up. I'll have to get her on the fence horizontal for next spring. I do get a waft of scent when passing here. I spray, but she doesn't seem that susceptible to bs. The blooms are wonderful, creamy white and remind me of thick whipped cream, almost velvety. I have her next to Don Juan and I'm hoping to have them intermingle for a berries and cream look.

Thanks people! Kaye, those pictures are lovely. I look forward to the arrival of these plants.

Cass, thanks...I didn't think any of these were pernetianas, but I'll look into it and be careful not to prune.

Jeri, this Mlle is a rose I've looked forward to getting since you and Clay showed a photo of it last October at the Saddleback Rose Society meeting...:-)

Thanks Buford. Your garden sounds lovely.

Jerome