I grow almost entirely DA. Everything is BS free and PM free.
Not been spraying and the only fert is decaying compost mulch.

Cannabisgrower's member page indicates that Canada is his/her home.
When I read about no spray successes the "where" is the first thing I want to know.

Duchesse,
Great news. And this year with some rainfall. Someday we'll understand Mutabilis, maybe.

Gean--Since you mentioned it, I have been having doubts about 'Puerto Rico' (Maitland White) as well. I just do not like its growth habit. It puts on long, gangly canes and I just cannot seem to figure it out (i.e. how to grow it/prune it). It does bloom all of the time, but I just cannot decide whether the abundant blooms outweigh the awkward growth. I guess there are only so many roses I have room for, and keeping one that does not titillate seems a waste of space. Here in Norther CA it is a healthy 'no spray' rose.

Now THAT is a terrific report!
And valuable for everyone in your general area.

I have a question -- those of you who are seeing a reduction in black spot this year . . .
How's your rainfall?
Normal? More rain than normal? Less?

Because, out here, you know we get NO summer rain.
I have tended to believe that our arid conditions are the reason for the overall lack of blackspot.
(We have rust, mildew, and downy mildew to worry us.)

Jeri

Gean,

Thank you for this information - it is very helpful to me as I'm in the same zone in Mississippi. I have many of the same roses you do. The Bucks have also done very well for me (with the exception of Blue Skies and Distant Drums). I have most of the teas you mention and they've done extremely well, too. I also love Chinas which do well for the most part. Two of the roses you mention as not being sure you like, Ducher and Centennaire de lourdes, are two of my favorites. Ducher was the first rose which bloomed in my garden and has not been out of bloom since. Even the thrips didn't bother it this year. I love the blooms on CdL and it hasn't been out of bloom either. I have Rosette Delizy which has no BS. However, the blooms are never perfect - they always seem brown around the edges. Another rose which has had no BS is Lafter - it's finally giving me some decent blooms.

I'm going to take a look at Ghislaine de feligonde (do you have any pictures?). I'm looking for a couple of roses to grow over some tree stumps that are left from Hurricane Katrina. I planted a Peggy Martin to cover one stump, but the two stumps I have left are huge. Do you think GdF would work?

Thanks,
Mary

Gean,

Thanks for the scoop. I would love to see your hedge of Perle d'Or if you have a picture handy. I will keep this list under my pillow!

Here are some other roses I grow no spray that I didn't include above

Hybrid musks

Buff beauty - Mine is two years old, going on three. It blooms on the eastern side of the house, half of it up an archway going into the backyard and half of it trained over a picket fence. It has never really had any bs problems. I love the color and am looking forward to the increased bloom time as it gets older.

Cornelia - this has been moved three times and now is under some pine trees where it gets about 5 hours of sun. It has bloomed only once, but it's been moved a lot. Next year should show something more.

Sally Holmes - wonderful rose, constnt bloomer, steady grower, no bs. I planted this adjacent to a big pine which had some big tree roots I was trying to dig around. I took Patricia43's advice and planted the rose in a cardboard box and buried it. It started growing and hasn't stopped. I don't know how to prune this rose and have to figure this out for next year. I've just had fun watching it grow.

Another tea

Lady Hillingdon - when this rose is blooming and when it isn't too hot, the blooms are spectacular. But when it is warm, the blooms fade. The new growth is a beautiful reddish color. It is a lovely bush, but it is like pink gruss to me, not overly robust. I am giving it another year or two, but may trade it in for one of the Pioneer roses in an apricot that ARE carries, like Caroline Hairston.

It kept all its old leaves from last year, and after it had a nice flush of blooms this spring, most of the old leaves turned spotty and fell off. It's just starting to bloom again, and putting out new leaves.

Climbers

Peggy Martin - I have this one growing on a picket fence; it is a baby. It has had no bs and has put out some of those little pink blooms. I think it will be a very strong grower. If it turns out to be a strong bloomer, I'll keep it, I think; otherwise after couple of years it may go.

Darlow's Enigma - this one is planted way in the back under a lot of shade. it has bloomed some and has no bs, but I know it needs more sun than it is getting.

Shrub - Belinda's dream - I am learning to keep this one pruned hard after it flushes so tht it will bloom on stronger, straighter stems. Otherwise the blooms cause the stems to flop down as they are very heavy. A good rain will ruin her blooms. No bs.

Easy Going - no bs at all, just planted from bareroots last spring. Nice yellow blooms. Strong rose.

Another China

Contessa du Cayla. This rose was moved this spring because it was going to get way too big for the spot it was in. It's growing but hasn't bloomed since Imoved it early this year. Next year. No bs and it has lovely blossoms.

Hybrid teas

Mrs. Oakley Fisher - has some amount of bs, but it too was moved early this year. It has bloomed some. It shakes off the small amount of bs it gets; the blooms fade in the sun. Seems fairly strong. I like this but don't know tht I'd replce it if it dies, mostly because of the way the blooms fade. I might like to try Dainty Bess. I do like singles. I wish I could find a place this rose liked so that it got enough sun but not so much that it faded. Is that a do-able goal, do you think?

Elle - this is an ARS award winner from a couple of years ago; kind of like Tiffany. It is growing in a pot in a lot of sun and hasn't really had too much bs; it shakes off what it does get and does have very fragrant blooms.

Pope John Paul II - I bought this has a J&P milk carton rose. It has new growth but has had yellow leaves and osme bs because I forgot to water it. It seems as though it will do well, I don't know.

Pot ghetto

Reve d'Or
Borderer
Mystic Beauty
Faith Whittlesey
Krishna's Peach

Thank you for being interested and I hope this is of help to others. I'd love to read what you grow and how it does as well.

Thank you for the comments, ya'll.

Mary, can you tell me how much sun your Ducher and Centennaire de Lourdes get? I think I pruned CdL wrong; Imoved it last spring and cut it back and while it has fully leafed out it has only bloomed once or twice. I think it's my fault. Ducher may just be in the wrong spot.

I've seen some lovely Duchers, so it probably is just me. Maybe it would rather be in a pot, I don't know.

Here is picture of Ghislaine for you. It is easy to train up a tree because it has no/few prickles. Also, bbinpa posted a beautiful picture of hers some time back. Let me see if I can find hers also, which seems to be grown as a shrub rather than a climber.

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Here is a link that might be useful: barbara's GdF

Redsox, I'll take a picture of the PdO and post it tomorrow. I look at it from my kitchen table and enjoy seeing it every day. It's really not that much of a hassle to go out and hack off the sprays with spent blooms.

Nice, thorough report ... thanks for sharing it.
Spice is the same for me during the hot summer months ... very small blooms that show thrip damage. It's a real beauty in the spring though and is a beautiful landscape plant.

Randy

Our humidity is perking along between 70 and 80%, jic you Gulf Coasters wonder if we're REALLY comparable to y'all! First two beloved roses which are struggling in my no-spray garden:
Escapade-- significant shedding of inner leaves, enough that plant is not gaining much size in its 2nd season (tho the heat may be the culprit)
Lyda Rose-- looks lovely from any distance & is blooming its head off but lots of leaf loss. Could not consider this one resistant, but % of loss is only about 30% at worst.
Secret Garden Musk Climber--lots of leaf drop, plant not growing or blooming well. Too bad, since its obviously a nice rose. Darlow's is outperforming this one widely.
Sombrueil-- a gaunt grower to begin with and frequently almost completely bare. It reblooms well but is not attractive. Would not replant this.

Winners:

Belinda's Dream
Darlow's Enigma
Distant Drums
The Fairy
Lavender Dream
Lion's Rose (Lion's Fairy Tale)
Lovely Fairy
Prairie Harvest
Quietness
Sea Foam
Sweet Chariot
Vanity (Hybrid Musk Climber)

I've gotten used to Chinas being shedders and these recover quickly and grow lovely new leaves:
Archduke Charles
Ducher
Louis Philippe
Martha Gonzales
Mutabilis
Old Gay Hill China
Spice (wish I enjoyed the so-called fragrance. Stinks.)

Teas: My teas are too new to report upon, but so far I can confirm every single one on Duchesse's list.

Polyanthas: this is old news, but here goes--

Perle d'Or--a winner, healthy and a good bloomer
Marie Pavie-- goes thru ugly phases but recovers
Marie Daly--healthier than Marie Pavie by far, with larger blooms. I'm wondering about mine as no way are they any darker at all than Marie Pavie's blooms. Both fade to almost white here.

Mauirose, I enjoyed reading your list and report. I am thinking about trying some Austins in a couple of years and like to hear about which ones do well in hot/humid weather. I am glad to hear the teas do well for you as well.

Have you thought about trying any of Viraghavan's roses? I'm wondering if you know of anyone that grows these. A few of us grow Faith Whittlesey and I just bought Krishna's Peach. Am curious about them.

Hi Gean-

I am curious about Viru's roses but haven't tried any yet. So far the only source i find is Roses Unlimited. Not sure if she ships here? Still waiting to hear back from her. i like the sound of Krishna's Peach. Can't wait to hear how it grows for you.

I have seen Golden Threshold, and want it desperately.
Maui, I hope you can get them, because I'd think your conditions are exactly what Viru is breeding for.

Jeri

It is still June, so not so bad, it is going to be much worse later. From the list of repeat blooming roses that I don't spray these are the winners so far.
Knock out - healthy
Darlow's Enigma - healthy
Home Run -healthy
Puerto Rico -15 % leaf loss
Ducher -15% leaf loss
Arethusa -10 % leaf loss
Earth Song -15% leaf loss
Quitness - 10% leaf loss
New Dawn - less then 10%
Awakening -less then 10%
Lyda -20%
Belinda's Dream -30%
Perle d'Or -30%
Cecille Brunner -30%
Marie Pavie- 40%
Illusion -10%
Quadra - 5-10%
White Cup- 15%
Carefree Sunshine -less then 10%

In my sister's no spray garden close to me
Dublin Bay- 10%
Dortmund -10-15%
Knock out -healthy
Colette -30%
McCartney Rose - 20%

I also have plenty of healthy once bloomers and species that I never spray, too many to list now. If anybody interested, I can always share with them.

I do spray my Austins, Bourbons and moderns. They would be 100% bald by now w/o spray. I see it in my sisters organic garden. Good culture, plenty of sun and defoliated roses :(
I am trying to get rid of roses that require spraying, but it is so difficult to part with some of them (Lady Hillingdon, Yolande de Aragon, Deuil de Dr Reynaud, Abraham Darby, etc). They all are huge and beautiful. I am givivng away more and more of these to good homes.

Olga

Barbara, sometime during last year Spice stopped smelling like pepper and started smelling like grapefruit. I hope yours does that too. Mine smells like pepper right now. But the grapefruit fragrance is wonderful!

I've thought about adding one of the Fairy Tale roses - glad to hear that one does well for you. Thanks for adding to the list.

Jeri, I should have known the GT was a single! - you really like them; I do too. Pretty yellow color.

Olga, I suspect everything will get much worse later on too, and am wondering what the rest of the summer holds. I've thought your bs pressure is much worse than ours, but I'm not sure.

Sometime when you have time I would like to see your list of once ayear bloomers; I wonder if this is not where I am headed as well.

Thanks for adding your list.

Redsox, here is a picture of the three bushes of Perle d'Or I am trying to grow into a hedge. It's not there yet, but in a year, maybe. Hamp has encouraged me to prune it however I want; it just grows back. I find this to be true. Good luck, Gean

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Thanks for the reports! They're were interesting and helpful. I have some of the same roses, but mine are still too young, I think, for a useful report. At our previous house, the bs & pm problems mostly went away after the roses got established.

Thanks for the report and the lovely photos. I really like Pearl de Or.

I will be giving a similar report when I've had a chance to take my pad and pencil for a walk around the garden. Just off the top of my head I remember clearly that Louise Odey is almost completely covered with BS and Ghislange de Felligonde, her neighbor is clean as a whistle. Yesterday I noticed how very clean Lion's Rose is and how Blummenschmidt is getting BS very bad.

I promise to do a more complete report later.

Barbara

Duchesse, thanks for the comment on the fragrance of Spice. I have Lions-Rose (Lion's Fairy Tale) in front of Sombrueil in hopes that Lion will be a nice bushy shrub to hide Sombrueil's bare legs! Despite continuing defoliation of Sombrueil-- I'll say it again-- Lion's Rose is clean as a whistle. FWIW, Coffee Country quit getting spotty once the heat came on-- it's one of Virus with highly interesting and variable colors. A good garden rose but taking its time to establish for me.