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most evergreen rose - need a screen

10 years ago

So we had some very wild weather last night which resulted in my red tecoma hedge toppling over. It was too badly damaged to try and salvage. So I have cleared it away and decided it's as good a spot as any to grow a rose hedge.

I will need something tall (six feet min) and preferably evergreen that will make a suitable screen. I have a couple of mutabilis and would prefer something different. And fragrant.

Any suggestions?

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melissa_thefarm
10 years ago
'Spray Cecile Brunner' comes to mind. It's massive, beautiful, and fragrant, but it does like to be 2-3 meters tall and wide. I thought of it because most roses that get that tall tend either to spread or to flop to some extent, but SCB doesn't: it makes a vase-shaped shrub.
Among the Teas, you might take a look at 'Archduke Joseph', to use this rose's European name. This one will grow very tall--you might need to give it support--is evergreen or nearly so, with particularly good foliage, and has beautiful fragrant flowers.
I grow the old Noisettes 'Blush Noisette' and 'Belle Vichyssoise' as upright largish shrubs. Both have small, abundant, sweetly fragrant pale flowers, with a scent that wafts.
All these roses are evergreen in a warm climate, and all grow tolerably upright without support, with the possible exception of 'Archduke Joseph'. I hope this helps.
Melissa

This post was edited by melissa_thefarm on Thu, May 8, 14 at 6:48
jacqueline9CA
10 years ago
I would echo Spray Cecile Brunner. Just be careful not to plant too many! Here are pics of our 100+ year old bush. The first one is when it is not blooming, and has my DH in the picture for scale. The second pic is when it is blooming. This is ONE bush. I am guessing it is a spray Cecile Brunner - it is definitely some sort of Cecile Brunner, and does not have the rampant growth which the Cl version does, so it has to be the spray version, or the normal bush version (which I have 2 of, and neither gets anywhere near this big.

It is growing in No Cal, zone 9 - classic Mediterranean climate.

Jackie
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The Incense Cedar is a good choice. However, they will grow tall and in time lose their lower branches. From the pictures it looks like you get a fair amount of rain. Your heading says zone 6. So, I have some suggestions. First get rid of the cottonwoods. Personally, I hate them and their cotton. Whit firs (Abies concolor) would be good choices for screening, especially if interplanted with incense cedar. Western Red Cedar (Thuja plicata) would also be a good screen plant. They keep their branches all the way to the ground. The Sierra Redwood (Sequioadendron giganteum) would be one to seriously consider. Yes, they grow 300 feet tall and 30 feet in diameter, but not in your lifetime. They grow rapidly and in a normal human lifetime will get about 50-75 feet tall and around 3 feet in diameter trunk. The spread would be about 20 -30 feet. They will keep their lower branches for many years. Also, they are quite prickly to reach into and will discourage unwanted visitors in that way. My best advice would be to plant a mixed row of all these. Being as they are evergreens they will not have super deep roots and being planted together they help to support each other in high winds. The snow load is not a problem for these trees. They are all cold hardy in zone 6. The Thuja has several different regional varieties. If you go for them, make sure the parent stock is from inland varieties as the coastal varieties are not cold hardy in your zone. These trees are all available online and you can probably get them in small tubes for large scale, economic planting.
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jacqueline9CA
10 years ago
Here it is starting to bloom.
muscovyduckling
10 years ago
The Banksia rose was evergreen at my mum's house in Perth. The white one had a beautiful subtle fragrance, but the yellow one didn't have any fragrance. She grew it over a pergola - it would most likely require support for a hedge though. A once-bloomer, but it bloomed for ages and ages.
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you could look at Adelaide D'Orleans or any of the sempervirens ramblers.

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