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Assistance with Pimpinellifoliae roses needed

12 years ago

About two years ago we began a quest to gather as many Pimpinellifoliae roses (as defined by Roy Shepherd in chapter 9 of his book) as was possible to get. We have pretty well exhausted US and Canadian commercial sources and have begun importing from Europe. But importing is never a sure thing, I had one shipment delayed when I finally received it all the roses in it were dead. So if possible I would like to find US sources for as many Pimpinellifoliae as possible. Below is a list of the Pimpinellifoliae roses we currently have. If anyone knows of any US source for any Pimpinellifoliae not on the list I would really appreciate knowing about the source. Here is our current list:

AGNES

AICHA

AILA KARHONAN

ALLARD

ALTAICA

ARISTIDES

AUSTRIAN COPPER

AYLSHAM

BEAUTY OF LEAFLAND

BETH

BUTTERBALL

BUTTERFLIES

CANARY BIRD

CAREFREE COPPER

CARMENETTA

CARNEA PLENA

CHLOROCARPA

CLAUS GROTH

CORYLUS

DART'S DEFENDER

DOMINIE SAMPSON

DOORENBOS SELECTION

DOUBLE PINK

DOUBLE WHITE

DR. MERKELEY

EUPHORIA

FALKLAND

FENJA

FRUHLINGSANFANG

FRUHLINGSDUFT

FRUHLINGSGOLD

FRUHLINGSMORGEN

FRUHLINGSSCHNEE

FRUHLINGSZAUBER

GAY CENTENNIAL

GLORY OF EDZELL

GOLDEN ALTAI

GOLDEN CHERSONESE

GOLDEN WINGS

GOTTFRIED KELLER

HAIDEE

HARIS

HARISON'S SALMON

HARISON'S YELLOW

HAZELDEAN

HEADLEYENSIS

HEATHER MUIR

HISPIDA

HOLLAND DOUBLE WHITE ALTAI

ISA MURDOCK

JUHANNUSRUUSA

KAKWA

KARL FORSTER

KILWINNING

KING OF SCOTS

LADY PENZANCE

LAWRENCE JOHNSTON

LA REVE

LEAFLAND DOUBLE WHITE ALTAI

LORD PENZANCE

LOUIS RIEL

LUTEA

MADELINE'S CHOICE

MAIGOLD

MARGUERITE HILLING

MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS

MAXIMA

METIS

MRS. COLVILLE

NEVADA

NIGEL HARTHORNE

OLD YELLOW SCOTCH

ORMISTON ROY

PAIMIONRUSSU

PARKFEUER

PATRICIA MACOUN

PAULA VAPELLE

PERSIAN AUTUMN

PERSIAN FLAME

PERSIAN PEACH

PERSIAN SUNSET

PERSIAN YELLOW

PETITE ECOSSAISE

PINK GARLAND

PORTER'S DOUBLE ALTAI

PRAIRIE DAWN

PRAIRIE JOY

PRAIRIE MAGIC

PRAIRIE PEACE

PRAIRIE SWEETHEART

PRAIRIE WREN

PRAIRIE YOUTH

QUATRE SAISONS

QUEEN MARY

RED DAWN X SUZANNE

RISTINUMMI

ROBBIE BURNS

ROSA CANTARBRIGIENSIS

ROSA ECAE

ROSA FEDSCHENKOANA

ROSA HEMISPHERICA

ROSA HUGONIS

ROSA HUGONIS FLORA PLENA

ROSA NITIDA

ROSA OMEIENSIS ATROSANGUINEA

ROSA OMEIENSIS CHRYSOCARPA

ROSA PRIMULA

ROSA RIPARTII

ROSA RUBELLA

ROSA SANCTA

ROSA SERICEA OMEIENSIS

ROSA SERICEA PTERACANTHA

ROSA SPINOSISSIMA

ROSA SPINOSISSIMA REPENS

ROSA TURKESTANICA

ROSA X HIBERNICA

ROSA X KOCHIANA

ROSA X REVERSA

ROSA XANTHINA

ROSA XANTHINA DUPLEX

ROSA XANTHINA LINDLEYII

ROSA XANTHINA NORMALIS

ROSA XANTHINA SPONTINEA

ROSALEE

ROSES ARE RED

ROSS RAMBLER 1

ROSS RAMBLER 4

ROSS RAMBLER 6

RUBRA

SCOTCH YELLOW

SEAGER WHEELER

SINGLE CHERRY

SKINNER"S BURNETTE

SOLEIL D'OR

STANWELL

STANWELL PERPETUAL

STAR OF PERSIA

SUZANNE

TIGRIS

WILLIAM III

WILLIAM IV

WILLIAM'S DOUBLE YELLOW

YELLOW ALTAI

I would really appreciate your assistance in this endeavor.

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Comments (6)

Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev
12 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I saw multiple with the pimpinellifolia foliage (and linseed oil fragrance) at Cliff Orent's Eurodesert, but I don't know what all of them were, since I was wandering all over the gardens, looking and sniffing, but didn't write down the names of every rose I saw. I really liked the linseed oil smell. He had some of his seedlings with that fragrance, and there was a particularly beautiful one, with pure white flowers as I recall. So you might try contacting Cliff Orent to see what he has. I don't know if he reads this forum.
lerosier3
Original Author
12 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Thank you for your suggestion. I was able to purchase all of Cliff's pimpinellifoliae before he closed shop. He will really be missed.
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Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev
12 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Do you know which rose this one is:
{{gwi:267068}}From "Mr. Linseed Oil"

It has a strong linseed oil fragrance (and maybe a trace of something else I can't place). Flowers open quite yellow and turn white.
lerosier3
Original Author
12 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
There are many roses amongst the xanthinas, hugonises, harisoniis and foetidas that are similar to the rose pictured. The description of linseed odor indicate that there is foetida or harisonii in its ancestry. But some spinosissimas are yellow and have an odd scent.

What are the prickles and bristles like on the bush? Is it a true upright grower?
catsrose
12 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
What an impressive collection! Thank you for gathering them all. I hope the various [OGR] nurseries and gardens know you exist.
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