Truly disease resistant roses other than Knockouts
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Comments (39)I know this is an old thread but its been very good and useful so I thought I'd chime in. All the roses i recommend have been mentioned here but I live very close to you in Zone 10 Florida so I thought I'd let you know what has worked in my garden. I have over 50 roses and my best performer is by far Belinda's Dream (you probably have it by now, if not, get it!). Always in bloom all year round, doesn't mind heat/humidity or rain has perfectly formed blooms AND its fragrant. It has it all! One of my other good performers so far have been some Ausitns. My BEST bloomer is Huntington rose, but it does get black spot a bit. I don't spray her so i just prune her a bit after every other flush and she keeps bouncing back. Queen of Sweden has been excellent. Not as big a bloomer as Huntington but NO black spot at all. She does grow TALL though (huntington grows WIDE), So Far she has stayed very narrow and tall. Jubilee celebration has done well but she is too new to tell if she'll get through the rainy season without too much BS. Wollerton Old Hall, great fragrance great BS resistance but bloom color is not my cup of tea (kind of a tan/beige). Alnwick rose has done well too as well as Abraham Darby (tried and true). All my Austins are in planters though, none in the ground. As for HT roses my best performers have been Mr. Lincoln, Olympiad (very good), Gold Medal (also very good), Queen Elizabeth (kind of gangly but blooms alot), iceberg and brilliant pink iceberg are great but grow wide, not tall (they stay short though). Pretty much all my HT get some black spot in the rainy season but i just trim them come fall and they do well all the way until the following May. If you are looking for a more bushy rose try the new KORDES varieties. I have had ABSOLUTELY no black spot on Lion's Fairy Tale and Mandarin Ice, and I hear all the Fairy Tales are just as good as lions. I'm getting a few more this year from that series. OH also don't forget BUCKS roses. Superb! I have Polonaise and Golden Princess and both are great with BS (very very little) but by far the best one has been Quietness! She has NO BS and beautiful fragrant blooms. Very Fragrant! Some roses to stay away from would be Oklahoma, Double delight (every one raves about her but she's a BS magnet in my garden) Angle Face (same). Cherish (love her blooms but same BS issues). I grow most of my roses in planters so you may need to see if you can find any of these on Fortuniana RS. I highly recommend the Kordes ones though, they have really thrived own root with NO disease they stand out like champs. They almost don't even look like rose bushes they are so leafy. Duchess du Brabant has been another good one. She does get a little BS but she seems to shake it off quickly. I just also got Rosette DeLizzy and clotilde soupert but they are still babies so too soon to tell. Good luck and let me know what does well in your garden!...See MoreDisease resistant- Illusion, others?
Comments (9)Thank you for the feedback! and for the wonderful pics, roseleaf. I prefer the color of Illusion- more a true red. I appreciate the suggestions. I have decided to do some rearranging in my yard- move my tomato garden, so I will have more room for a rose, peony, perennial bed. I have Martha Gonzales to plant come fall- after my tomatoes are finished. I still have to figure out where to plant Altissimo- since you all let me know he would be a lot bigger than I had planned- I still have to figure a space for him. And by the way, Martha G. has such attractive leaves! Small, purplish ones. I got 2 of them from Ashdown's experimental shipping sale, and both look very nice now. Thanks for the suggestions and I hope there will be more. Brandy...See MoreAre these roses truly blackspot resistant?
Comments (22)As the person at Newflora who does the ratings there is so much to say about disease resistance. You are right it is hard to test every location. We know there are at least 12 races of black spot and I think probably more across N. America. The other things I find to affect disease resistance in a particular plant is stress whether it be drought, lack of fertilizer, a hard winter, wrong soil pH can also affect the disease resistance. I would compare it to a person being more susceptible to colds when they are run down or stressed. In one of the threads on this site I mentioned Brothers Grimm had shown black spot in the Midwest but we have never seen it any other place in the world. I can't explain it, but I do believe it had a very bad black spot in this trial location. What we do before we introduce a rose is send it to trial sites across N. America to see the disease tolerance. Kordes also widely tests the roses in Europe. We run our trials with no sprays and try and promote disease by leaving diseased plants in the field and overhead watering to promote black spot. I have strong mildew at my trial site in spring and again in fall. We work very hard to try and deliver roses with excellent disease resistance. That said as we work hard at creating disease resistance roses the fungus is also busy mutating and changing. I don't think we will ever create a perfect rose or if we do the fungus will eventually find a way around it. Realistically I think the way to look at roses is to see if it can maintain health through the summer and maintain at lease the upper 70 percent of the foliage until fall with no spray. In fall as roses start to shut down for the season there may be more disease, but with just a little time left I don't worry about this. The test is that you enjoyed the rose and did not need to spray fungicides to have a great looking rose for the season. A few leaves with spots should not be too great a factor. With mildew if there is a little leaf wrinkle I know it has some susceptibility. but it is keeping the foliage and will be all right when climate conditions change. If it destroys the leaves and ruins the buds, well then it is not something we would introduce. The reason I follow this site is to get feedback on how the roses are performing in a wide geographic area. I learn a lot and if I have something helpful to add when there are questions I do comment. I learned something on this post because Beth's report on Savannah is the first time we have heard of black spot on Savannah. I hope it is transitory for you Beth because this is one of my favorites. Greenburgroses if you are in the south then Wedding Bells has been performing really well on disease and bloom. Plum Perfect is really doing well in the south, but I am not sure about its vigor in the north. We have not finished trials. We introduced PP for southern gardens as part of the Sunbelt series. Poseidon is healthy in the south although tending to be tall. If you buy it you should prune it hard (to 2 feet) in the late winter to maintain it at 3.5'. Savannah is doing well in the south (except at Beth's house :) ) It won awards at Biltmore no spray competition and also did well at the trail at thee U. of Georgia Athens. Wishing very good results with your rose garden....See MoreAnyone recognize this floriferous, highly disease resistant rose?
Comments (12)Thank you, everyone. I don't THINK it's Sweet Fragrance, though a few of the photos at HMF are similar to what I've seen. HMF is describing "strong/sweet fragrance"; this is light (I did say fruity). I haven't seen it "age to salmon pink" at any time. When I went back Yesterday, the older blooms were cream w/light yellow centers (like all the blooms when I first saw it: at THAT time, they did all seem to be new blooms), and the newest blooms looked like my first 2 pics. Ping's site says it's a HT: this is (for me) a floribunda. He does say "apricot orange to peachy salmon". Also don't think it's Morning Magic. I, too, had wondered if this mystery rose was from the same KO breeder. MM, at HMF, looks "less full", with fewer petals, and more pink than what I've seen. I'll go back tomorrow to count petals. HMF says "4-8 petals" for MM. I have a Peach Drift in the yard. Planted this summer - 1 "gallon" OR. I know it can get tall; 1 cane is already 30 inches high. It's surrounded by 3 Kordes all-stars, and is my best performer by far, by virtue of its prodigious flower production. In an untreated midge minefield. PD's blooms are smaller, with virtually no fragrance. Also, many more blooms per cluster than on the mystery rose, which is more upright/narrow. I'll welcome any additional thoughts....See Moreramblinrosez7b
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