Pin or Red. . . which is the best Oak?
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Comments (5)Oak wilt is a real problem, but primarily in a woodland setting where root grafts spread the disease from one tree to another. It can be nasty and I've had to remove many infected trees in the woods. However, I wouldn't let it keep me from planting red oaks. Its unlikely you'll have a problem if planted in an open area, prune appropriately, and avoid wounds. This from the WI DNR website regarding OW spread: Underground: Most oak wilt moves from diseased trees to healthy trees through roots that have become interconnected (root grafts). Most root grafts form between oaks of the same species; red oak roots graft more commonly than do white oak roots, and grafts between red and white oaks are very rare. Overland: Some movement of oak wilt is overland via sap-feeding beetles. In the spring, fungal mats (small masses of Ceratocystis fagacearum) develop under the bark of some trees that have died from oak wilt the year before. These mats force the bark to crack open. The fungus produces a sweet odor that attracts sap-feeding beetles on the mats. The beetles then fly to healthier oaks to feed on sap flowing from fresh wounds, thus infecting healthy trees....See MoreBest stain color for toning down red oak?
Comments (7)Do you know which brand of stain your guys are using? No matter what you will probably see some red in the individual boards that are naturally red, but I think you can find a happy balance with a little stain mixing. just make sure you do a large sample directly on the floor, the little swatches or small sample spots less than a sq ft dont do justice as you have come to find out....See Morebest stains for red oak floors
Comments (16)OK...here's what you WANT to know about 'no stain'. The ORANGE tones in the old floor came from an 'oil based polyurethane'. That ORANGE is the FINISH not the wood. Do NOT let them use an 'oil based polyurethane' NOR an 'oil modified' finish. If you want RAW or unfinished looking floors, you want WATER BASED 2 part polyurethane FINISH. It will NOT turn orange. To be clear, many wood flooring professionals LIKE the orange. They try their best to make EVERY FLOOR turn ORANGE. That's why MANY like the oil based finishes (or oil modified). It turns the wood ORANGE. That's what they like. That's what they have been taught is the way 'wood should look'. Don't let a floor finisher dictate his/her 'ideal' on your floor colour choice. A water based polyurethane (a high end 2 part product like StreetShoe by Basic) is going to be SUPER tough. And they do NOT stink. The OIL BASED products STINK. They are NASTY. For those of us who suffer from migraines or nose bleeds, the OIL BASED stink can be so bad that we have to stay out of the house for 6-8 weeks because of the smell. A water based finish has VERY little smell. Even for chemically sensitive people they can move back into their home inside of 14 days. That is a MAJOR bonus. Yes they are more expensive, but so is 2 weeks of a hotel stay. Either way you are going to pay for it....See MoreWhat's the best dark stain on Red Oak Floors?
Comments (11)Have the FLOORING PROFESSIONAL (ahem...not some 'guy' who also knocks down walls) to offer STAIN PATCHES. A stain patch is a patch of stain (usually they offer 3-5 different stains) with a SINGLE COAT of finish. The coat of finish is a MUST!!! Without the finish you are picking blind. If the builder is using red oak they are almost certainly using 'oil based' poly. Oil based poly = turns orange. And orange + red = FIRE RED. That's why you must stipulate: 1. Colour patches will be offered for viewing/choosing by the customer 2. Colour patches MUST be coated with 1 coat of polyurethane finish 3. Colour patches will be left on the floor for 24-48 hours so the homeowner can watch the stain turn colour throughout all lighting situations. 4. Customer will SIGN the stain they want and photograph for posterity before the sand/refinish is to occur. Realize that ALL of these stipulations will do two things: 1. Slow down the process 2. Irritate the Bejesus out of the Builder Be calm and firm and carry on. If the builder is cheaping out, you will know. It will be apparent in their reaction to your stipulations (put in writing of course). The bigger the negative reaction the cheaper s/he is working....See Moreken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
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