mixing garden soil, topsoil/manure/peat/vermiculite/sand? what?
bauerbach
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pre-bagged soil mix comparable to Mel's Mix for patio veg garden?
Comments (17)Anyone who follows the Container Gardening board here knows that much of the discussion about pine bark fines is regarding where to find the damn stuff. Obviously it is not easy to find for most people, and it is not available in most big box stores. The pine bark mulch sold in most big box stores is not fines. Most the discussion on the Container gardening forum stems from the fact that most people don't even know what they are looking for, even know what bark fines are despite all the info available about them on the web. And yes I know that the bags of pine mulch sold in the big box stores is not the same thing. Pine bark fines are not sold outside in the mulches section. They are sold inside the section devoted to starting seeds and growing plants. In the Lowe's here, just there yesterday, they are inside on the shelves next to the exotic plants section where the big containers, container plants, cactus mix, the violet mix, the perlite, vermiculite, decorative container gravel etc. is located. At Home Depot, in both of them here, they are just outside the door into the gardening section (not with the bags of mulches), the section on the shelves next to the super sized containers and the similar exotic soils and mixes. Dave Here is a link that might be useful: Pine bark fines pics compared to pine bark mulch...See Moresoil mix for container gardening....
Comments (20)Does this mix work well for swc? Speaking from personal experience with variations on this mix, yes it does. The critical part of this mix is the size/degree of compostedness (is that a word) of the bark. If using fresh, larger bark pieces it may be necessary to increase the amount of peat to wick water to the surface well. If using a more composted bark it isn't. I have read alot of people use this mix and miracle grow ferts but isn't miracle grow ferts nitrogen urea based? Yes. Mg isn't necessary, there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat (to use a really horrible colloquialism ;) How are the plants in a soiless mix getting nitrogen from urea based ferts?...... The bacteria responsible for the conversion are ubiquitous and don't require soil or even much in the way of consistent environmental parameters. They are the same bacteria at work in lakes, in fish tanks, darn near everywhere. They are subject to temperature limits, but this is really only a potential problem in cold soils/mixes. Otherwise provide them a food source and good luck keeping them away....See MoreSand? Vermiculite?
Comments (7)Along with a good reliable soil test for soil pH and major nutrient levels perhaps these simple soil tests might be of some help. 1) Soil test for organic matter. From that soil sample put enough of the rest to make a 4 inch level in a clear 1 quart jar, with a tight fitting lid. Fill that jar with water and replace the lid, tightly. Shake the jar vigorously and then let it stand for 24 hours. Your soil will settle out according to soil particle size and weight. For example, a good loam will have about 1-3/4 inch (about 45%) of sand on the bottom. about 1 inch (about 25%) of silt next, about 1 inch (25%) of clay above that, and about 1/4 inch (about 5%) of organic matter on the top. 2) Drainage. Dig a hole 1 foot square and 1 foot deep and fill that with water. After that water drains away refill the hole with more water and time how long it takes that to drain away. Anything less than 2 hours and your soil drainsâ too quickly and needs more organic matter to slow that drainage down. Anything over 6 hours and the soil drains too slowly and needs lots of organic matter to speed it up. 3) Tilth. Take a handful of your slightly damp soil and squeeze it tightly. When the pressure is released the soil should hold together in that clump, but when poked with a finger that clump should fall apart. 4) Smell. What does your soil smell like? A pleasant, rich earthy odor? Putrid, offensive, repugnant odor? The more organic matter in your soil the more active the soil bacteria will be and the nicer your soil will smell. 5) Life. How many earthworms per shovel full were there? 5 or more indicates a pretty healthy soil. Fewer than 5, according to the Natural Resources Conservation Service, indicates a soil that is not healthy....See MoreAdding peat moss to garden soil.
Comments (17)Oh boy, I can add fuel to the dead horse fire. "Mosser Lee -- brings your plants to life" purchased at either Lowes or Home Depot. "long fibered SPHAGNUM MOSS" tHIS PACKAGE CONTAINS 100% ORGANIC SPHAGNUM MOSS. uNLIKE PEAT MOSS OR SPHAGNUM PEAT WHICH ARE NON RENEWABLE, DEAD PRODUSTS DUG FROM THE EARTH, mOSSER lEE sPHAGNUM IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE HARVESTED FROM PERENNIAL LIVE PLANTS THAT GROW IN THE RICH wISCONSIN MARSHLANDS." Ooops, forgot to take off my cap lock. Now that I read it, I guess it's not even 'peat,' which by their definition is dead? We placed this moss in an aquarium with some pearlite and gave it several gallons of distilled water. Various Venus Flytraps, Butterworts, Sundew, and Pitcher Plants were placed still in their own pots with holes, but snuggled down in the moss so they think they are in a bog with the constant wetness. We put on typical aquarium grow lights over a glass top that I forget to turn off most of the time. It took a few months and one day my son pointed out some moss strands that looked kinda green. It's been up over a year now and some of the little butterworts have been overgrown and now they are lumps under thick green moss. I know this isn't soil related, but the sundews are amazing and sooo beautiful, especially with a magnifying glass. They have hundreds of leave hairs, each with a tiny sparking drops of sticky nectar. Yeah, it's a bog garden inside. A couple of times I've left out a banana and apple to rot inside a big cup, and he slaps a top on it and shoo's the fruit flies inside the terrarium so that they land on the plants. The next day the leaf has curled up over them. It spoils the looks of it for a little while, but ya know, they gotta eat. The fruit then goes outside to the compost pile....See Moregardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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