When to call it quits with Princeton Sentry Gingko?
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Comments (11)Hey Guys... I bumped into a Ginko tree last year and was amazed by the looks of it, one of a kind leaf and tree shape and loaded with this pretty looking fruit. It was dropping the fruit so I collected a bunch to see if I could germinate them to plant them in the yard this spring. Back than I did not realize the problems with the bad smell (did not notice any picking up the fruit), got a few seed sprouting right now, but since there is no way of knowing if it will be a female or male I would like to know how bad, the bad smell is. I have a lot of space, so I can put it out of the way so i can enjoy the looks but won't get bothered by the bad smell. Can anybody from experience say how bad that smell is ? Is it like having a rotting trash bag that smells bad when you get close or is it like having a complete garbage dump next door..... Know this is pretty subjective but would like to know what I'm possibly getting into by planting those trees. Also, does anybody know if there is any wildlife (USA, East TN) that will make use of the fruit ? Thanks.......See MorePruning witch's broom gingko
Comments (7)lets start .. by discussing WHY???? ... you want to maintain HEIGHT???? its a tree ... none of us suggest TOPPING trees ... all the info you need.. on a fully established tree.. is right there in your pic .... look at last years growth ... w/o a scale.. it looks like 8 to 12 inches ... it will ... w/o doubt.. grow at that rate for the next 100 years.. unless you kill it ... topping it.. will expose.. repeatedly ... new wounds ... and lead to eventual decline... over the next decade or two for sure... lol ... you are not in snow load ... so personally.. i dont care about two leaders with that weird crotch between them ... i would probably clean up the low hanging branches that I THINK IS see down low ... expose the 'Y' .. and revel in it .. trying to reduce to one leader is not really imperative... and probably too late to be done ... i would prefer 2 ... to a 30 degree angle in the trunk ... a WBroom .... is a plant with a reduced growth rate as compared to the mom it was taken from ... such is the basis for ALL named varieties of any type of plant.. but especially in the conifer world ... IMHO ... when its name was lost... IF IT EVER HAD ONE .... it becomes NEAR impossible to name it.. we can have a lot of fun speculating.. and guessing ... but personally... i would never feel secure in ever stating with any certainty ... that i KNOW the name ... one thing.. as i type endlessly .. lol ... that strikes me ... is that i have a few .. non-WB types... and i cant even get them to grow.. IN MICHIGAN .... at the rate yours is growing at .... which makes me wonder.. if the cause of your Y ... in the trunk.. wasnt a failure of a graft ... and you have the plain old understock gingko tree ... you have a nice tree there.. if you can enjoy it for what it is... rather than forcing your own aesthetic on it .... so i am right back to how i started .... WHY??? ... do you want to top it??? all that said... it is yours... if you want to topiary it into some certain shape or form.. knock yourself out ... its a prerogative of ownership ... good luck ken ps: i may be mocked for the analogy ... but in the hosta world.. i like to say.. that a $100 hosta without a name tag ... is nothing more than a $5 hosta ... as they all look alike.. when you really get down to brass tacks ... Here is a link that might be useful: growth rates in conifers .. of which a WB usually indicates a lower annual growth rate.. than the norm ... yours is definitely NOT a mini nor a dwarf .......See MoreGingko biloba 'Chris's Dwarf' / 'Chris' Dwarf' / 'Chris Dwarf'?
Comments (12)Severn, after I saw your thread, I searched for it and I found one dutch nusery that has it! It's a bit high grafted, which I don't like much, but I can live with it! About the mugos. Yes I had two very young 'Carsten's' but one of them gave up during August. The other lost 40% of it's branches but still it has some live buds left so it's a keeper. However, the one you remember isn't 'Carsten's', but it is rather 'Wintergold'. I have it for two winters in full sun and it displays a more orang-y color than 'Carsten's' and I highly recommend it! This year I expect it to make an even better show as it has grown bigger. Despite the hot days we have here, it started to yellow up in time. Unfortunately no other winter yellowing mugos for now. I've got my eye on 'Little Gold Star' though. 'Wintergold' past January, behind Nadina domestica 'Firepower' About 'Chief Joseph'. I liked the idea of owning one but the stories in the forum are quite scary. Especially Ken's... :) I asked Edwin if he had one availiable but he was out of stock. Since then I left it alone. I don't have too many shady spots here, to make experiments with the the Chief! Too much sun!! Best regards, Fotis...See MoreChicagoland/midwest-- how was your luck with 'Princeton' Elm?
Comments (35)Same here-circum-neutral soils high in clay content....no issues whatsoever. If anything, the foliage just gleams. Just got to watch the lingo a bit: So, a pH just a bit above neutral (pH of 7) is by definition slightly alkaline. But somebody reading this thread in the high deserts, where soil pHs are much higher, could get fooled into thinking this elm is their answer. I tend to doubt it, and not just due to the inherent dryness. As pH goes above 8, nutrients become extremely difficult for any but the most well-adapted plant species (adapted to the desert) to survive and thrive. Neutral soils, or those in a range from around 6.5 to perhaps 8.0, do support a very large range of plants. But on the high side, you're going to run into trouble much past that 8.0....See Morelou_spicewood_tx
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