garden soil from wetlands?
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Comments (15)mary's comments above are very much on point. This is NOT something you need to be concerned about. Because this is an organic gardening forum, you will get all sorts of heated replies about the "dangers" of RoundUp but the truth is this is one of the most innocuous of any herbicides, which accounts for its extremely wide use and popularity. Anything can be toxic if applied in sufficient dosage. A highly organic soil - that is, one that has adequate levels of organic matter in it and therefor healthy populations of soil organisms - is extremely effective in reducing the half life and residual effect of glyphosate in the soil. And it is important to understand how the stuff works in the first place - it must be applied to actively growing plant tissue. It does not translocate from the soil to plant roots but rather from the plant tissue through the roots. Planting anything where RU was once used will not affect new plantings, either by killing them off or contaminating the plant. And yes, Dan is correct - the development of RoundUp Ready seeds was intended to build resistance to the herbicide in specific farm crops so that the herbicide could be used without concern for crop damage.......it has nothing to do with soil persistence. I'd also not be overly concerned with RoundUp or any glyphosate product leaching significantly into groundwater - the fact that it does bind to soil particles reduces the risk of this significantly. Who knows what obscures studies kimmsr is alluding to but a three year study of agricultural fields demonstrates that less than 1% of applied glyphosate was leached into groundwater or lost as runoff. In one case, a loss of 1.85% (a BIG number....NOT!!) was indicated from a field in which the product was applied at twice the recommended application rate and 99% of that total runoff occurred during a severe rainstorm the day after application. (EPA, 2003) Here is a link that might be useful: environmental fate of glyphosate...See MoreShould rocks/pebbles be removed from garden soil?
Comments (6)"You'll NEVER get rid of them all." Ditto! I have been using the same garden spot for 30+ years. I have removed the bigger rocks every year, you know the size, the ones that make my tiller lock up and bigger. I am better at growing rocks than veggies! I get more than a pickup truck load every year! I have a pile that is approximately 30'X30'X4' deep out on the "back 40".. It would be bigger if I hadn't given them to people to haul away and use for their home projects! I also used them as a bed to make a 400' loop to extend my driveway....See MoreTop soil or garden soil?
Comments (6)Webster's defines "Top Soil" as that soil on the top 4 inches of the earth. If you were to come here and take the top "soil" from this area you would get nothing but sand although at my sisters (about 6 miles west) you would get a brown clay. Some places you would get a grayish colored clay while some others you would get a reddish or black clay. In the Southwest the "Top Soil" could be miced with some organic matter to make adobe bricks. The term "Top Soil" is meaningless. What most people think of, and want, when talking about "Top Soil" is loam and there simply is not enough of that around to fill the need. One of the places around here that used to sell "Top Soil" no longer does and instead sells soil. This is sand mixed with about 8 percent organic matter (dredged from the bottom of an inland lake) and enough lime so that Michigan State University's soil test lab will get a pH of 7.0. Another place that sells "Top Soil" around here mixes their own according to a "secret" recipe and in testing this "soil" I find cigarette butts and pieces of disposable diapers as well as other trash mixed in. Another place that sells "Top Soil" mixes leaf mold with our generic sand, so the soil looks quite rich until the rain washes the organic matter out of the mix and what is left is sand. Do not waste your money trying to buy sometihng called "Top Soil" since all you need to do to get good soil at your home is add organic matter to the soil you have, and for most of use that organic matter is freely available....See Moregarden soil from western organics
Comments (14)Boid I only paid $ 27.00 per cubic yard at Pioneer. Online it looks like Western Organics and Grow-Well may be one and the same company. In the past I have used some of Gro-Well's bagged products. Some of which are great like their Seed Starting Mix but its very expensive. The soil products I have used of theirs in my garden had no sand or native soil in them. Basically 100 percent organic matter. Not something I would use in a vegetable garden. For raised beds it looks like they are using Mel's Mix from the Square Foot Gardener. A word of advice. If you go to the Square Foot gardening forum here you will find lots and lot of posts of people saying they don't like Mel's Mix. They say it does not work for their square foot raised bed gardens. Some say it worked great for them the first year. However the vermiculite breaks down pretty fast so nearly everyone hates it from the second year on....See Moreengk916
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