First time poster, noob q about building a wood frame greenhouse
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Building My Dream Greenhouse
Comments (4)I wish I could say I was finished. But unfortunately it's not. We have had rain literally every weekend the last 6 weeks and they're calling for it again this weekend. During the week it's dark before I get home. Now, I've torn up my shoulder carrying the roof panels. It's so close, but not quite there. Here are some pictures: This is a picture from the front corner of the greenhouse. The poly is up except for the corner side piece which is done, just not installed. The two corners are hinged so I can open them for ventilation or take them off in the summer. This is a view from the side of the greenhouse. You can see the ventilation holes at the top. They're each 22.5" x 30". I'm building a frame to cover them out of pvc molding 1.5x1.5. The poly will sit in a channel. Going to buy auto vent openers after I get the first one built and check the weight. A friend with a brake is going to install the tin to waterproof the area around the vents. The poly here is 5/8" x 10' x 48". I've pulled something in the rotator cuff on my left shoulder carrying these by myself. They didn't seem that heavy, just awkward. Pain didn't start until the middle of the next night. Next week I'll be going to the orthopedist. The back is framed in. You can see there's a big mess back here and I have to finish painting the building. Also, planning on building a brick patio out back. You can see the hinges on the one panel. I'm going to replace these with some hinges I found at Tractor Supply that will let me take the panel off in the summer. Here's the 450 gallon tank for the aquaponics setup. I have the Hawaiian Gold tilapia inside the house right now. I'm hoping to be completely finished by mid to late January....See MoreQuestion about lighting in new greenhouse
Comments (14)Longwave length EMR (electromagnetic radiation) is the same kind of "Heat" produced by electric heaters, the same kind of "heat" that radiates out of radiators, and the same kind of "Heat" that say heat seeking misiles target in on, and Light isn't just "essentially" the same as this radiation, its the same thing just on a slightly shorter wavelength, the only thing that makes light light is the human eyes ability to pick it up, last I checked we weren't writing the physics books based on physiology of humans. However, if you are providing light that your plants can absorb through chlorophil it is being turned into sugar rather than heat, sure the plant releases some heat when it breaks down the sugar but it doesn't release that much when its cold, oddly enought plants release less heat when they are cold. The problem with a shoplight is that if its one to replace a 60 W incandescent its only going to be 16 W or so, you are losing 44 Watts of heat, sure it doesn't cost as much to run, but that doesn't matter if it doesn't do the job. You may want to pop down to the pet store and get some black heat lamps, they cost a few bucks, last 6 months or so and are generally little 25 watt radiant heaters. You can also get a thermometer outlet, one of those hardwired gadgets that turns on at 35 F and off at 45 F, put it low in the green house and put the lights towards the center, You may be able to extend your green house season another month or two with as little as 100 Watts of heating power, depending on how air tight it is and what type of glazing you use....See MoreWanting to build a greenhouse, complete newbie..
Comments (26)Ok Thanks to all and the constructive criticism I really have a thick skin and can take it!! I will try to address all concerns addressed so that others and myself can benefit from my mistakes made . "I am more concern about the structural concept. If there is not enough cross bracing, any small movement due to foundation shifting or wind load can pop the glass panels out and do some serious damage to occupants. " The building was built like any other normal building frame style. Everything is built then the glass is added and capped for finish. After that its all sealed so any water cant get thru. On the north wall there is a 24inch section of plywood from the floor up for extra strength. Combine that with the plywood gables there is no movement at all. Its built like a brick you know what before the glass goes in. "There is not a lot of detail in the photos for comments. I can see the sheet metal cladding on the wood. I am not sure that¡¦s a good idea. Have a vapor barrier on the cold side of a humid environment can be problematic." Just ask Ill gladly get you more pictures of any detail you request. The aluminum on the wood is just to keep the water away from the wood and clean up the appearance. I donÂt heat the GH in the winter. Its used more as a storage shed in the off season. All vents are left open and the screen door is also left open to disperse any heat in the winter months. "overall, the design does look impressive and admittedly, I was being overly hard on it. But, recheck your calcs for "structural" glass construction. ;) BTW, If you're still interested in exploring a post + beam framed greenhouse, I've designed quite a few timber framed buildings - many with attached passive solar sunspaces utilizing true post+beam joinery and patio door glass panels, in both vertical and sloped glazing applications. Email me if you'd like to see completed project photos and perhaps share some details." I appreciate the honesty it actually helps me learn. I would also love some help on the "calcs" of the glass install it self. Is the Half inch flange of metal not enough in your opinion? Remember the kerf deal is long gone. The aluminum acts as a kind of glazing strip..Please by all means advise of any other way that may help others reading this.! On the roof itself the glass lays flat on the wood surface with a 1 inch space in between glass panels (lots o silicone). I then screw a 1x3 in between the glass sections so the wood overlaps the glass.At the top of the roof there is about 8 inches of plywood sheeting due to the fact the glass wasnt long enough. So I made the glass start from the eves up as opposed from the top down.I honestly think I gained major strengh this way I then cap over wood for apearance only on the roof. I would also love to review any post+beam joinery and patio door glass panels, in both vertical and sloped glazing applications now your talking!! This is something that I have always wanted to figure out. the next house perhaps!! Let me know what you have in mind....See MoreFirst time WS. But what about DS?
Comments (10)I'm interested in your project. I collected an array of seeds which I really can't sort out. These seeds were in a most remarkable garden very close to our Community Food Pantry where I volunteered on October 8. The yard is surrounded on two sides by a two foot tall concrete wall separating it from the sidewalk. On top of the wall and less than 12" from it is a chain link fence. The garden exists between the wall and the fence, just a few inches deep extending the full length of the fence along the corner on two different streets. On Oct. 8 it was blooming with calendula, some delicate annual poppy, love-in-a mist, two or three malvas of some sort, gallardia, some linaria, and about a dozen other flowers. There were seed pods of other plants which had bloomed earlier. I was not able to find the gardener but just couldn't help taking an assortment of seeds all mixed together. I'm trying to decide whether to winter sow them in a large rectangular salad container or to make some arrangement such as you were describing. It would probably be best for me to direct sow because I wouldn't need to worry about planting out. Another experience I had which might be revalent to you dealt with wanting to plant some perennial divisions in a large unruly pasture. I had black eyed Susans and Purple Coneflower. I doubled brown paper grocery sacks, rolled down the sides of the double bags and put the divisions in soil inside. Then I dug holes to fit the bags, removing what grass, roots, weeds that I could and "planted" the bags with just the rolled down edge above ground. Voila' next year there were coneflowers and BES growing in the "lower pasture"....See Morehdcochran
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