First impressions of Lady Emma Hamilton
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Comments (8)Our climate in southeast England (zone 8) is probably a tad different from yours, but fwiw I can tell you that Lady Emma (3 seasons with me) is by no means a climber here, but barely 3 ft tall and 3-4 ft wide. The overall impression is of very well behaved, shrubby, wide and well branched rose. It blooms all the time and well through the first frosts here (Dec), often into January, and doesn't want to lose its coppery leaves either. It could very well be an evergreen and everbloomer in your climate, and will probably grow bigger than it does here. It definitiely is a super performer with great color and one of the most amazing complex fruity scents. I've had Young Lycidas for two seasons and it's a very short rose, under 2 ft so far, with huge and perfumed blooms that can weigh down the slender branches at times. Overall it's fairly upright and vaseshaped, perhaps a bit twiggy, and it definitely takes a breather between bloom cycles. But color and its damask perfume are fantastic, and I love the shape of the flowers, especially before they open entirely - at which point they begin to reflex back and acquire a bit of a blousy look with a softer silvery lavender color, which is also nice, but not as striking as the deep magenta and nicely folded petals of the earlier stages. The blooms last a very long time, up to a couple of weeks here. Keep it close to the border so you can see and smell it. Hope this helps, Andrea...See MoreWanted: Cuttings of Lady Emma Hamilton
Comments (18)There are no easy answers but it is a good question to think about. I have traded cuttings and plants and know for certain that most of the people I've traded with continue to do a lot of plant buying from the nurseries. These are seriously addicted people who are not going to be satiated with a few plants traded! Many people who trade don't have a huge number of plants and will always turn to the nurseries for their large selections. The example Ann gave could also apply to a nursery owner buying plants from another nursery owner. He/she might say, " I am going to propagate a lot of these plants and sell them and give you a bit of competition." Would that be a sorry way to treat the person he bought from? I don't think so. We all have to get our plants somewhere. Do most nursery owners dislike selling to other nurseries? I question whether a small new nursery might be subjected to the same disfavor that a small time trader might get. Keeping them in commerce might be better than just trading because the nursery owner is putting so much in to the whole thing, keeping obscure varieties available, educating people, etc. A private garden owner can also keep obscure varieties going, educate, etc. . When it comes to " BAD rose traders" spank spank ( unpatented) I just can't go there yet. I have been limiting my trades anyway for this important reason: a nursery owner is more likely to recognize disease and refuse to send a diseased plant. I have also seen nursery owners who may not have taken the time to look over a plant before mailing. I am treating some nursery bought plants with systemic soil drench today because some kind of white thready nymph fell from the leaves to the soil when it warmed up. I think supporting a nursery with a big inventory is worthwhile because the huge inventory is such a vast effort to maintain, and it is such a resource to find them all in one place. And many of us like those people. Melis, if you're still reading, I've been thinking that one unpatented plant you could trade for which has a lot of orange in it is Clementina Carbonnieri. Or you could buy it. It should do well in zone 8 and would not need spraying, while an orange Austin is likely to need spraying. You can see pictures of it at www.helpmefind.com/roses. You can do a search and then click on the photos tab. Linda...See MorePlease compare: Lady Emma Hamilton, Carding Mill, Summer Song
Comments (24)I have all of the Austin oranges - Pat Austin, Lady Emma Hamilton, Summer Song, Lady of Shalott, and also Carding Mill. My Pat Austin has shown rose rosette disease, but is responding favorably to aspirin treatments at the moment. I'm hoping for the best on this. It does bloom nicely, but the flowers do not take our summer heat. The bush gets quite tall. It does have a good color, but, again, the flowers fry easily. Lady Emma Hamilton does not get to be a tall bush. It is more spreading. It does not bloom in large amounts of flowers at any given time, but it has a fairly steady supply of nicely fragrant flowers. It is the most consistent performer of the oranges that I have. Summer Song was quite pretty in the spring. For summer all three bushes of it that I have didn't do much of anything. I noticed that a couple of them were munched on probably by deer. Something ate the leaves off of them as well as part of the stems, and I have seen deer in the yard at various points. The first year I had these plants they did reasonably well. This past summer, year two, they didn't care for the excessive heat and just sulked. They did, however, throw long canes. The orange color does fade badly in the heat. They did not bloom much at all in the fall either. I think it was more because of the weather. Lady of Shalott was pretty its first year. It seemed to be going along okay growing and flowering most of the way through the growing season. It pretty well stopped by the end of September, but it had a couple of flowers late. I think this bush will get fairly large. Flower size has been on the small size. Perhaps it will improve some next year. Carding Mill does reasonably well, but the flowers have been on the small side. It can get to be about 5-6 feet tall here. Its growth habit is fairly cylindrical and doesn't spread much. The apricot color bleaches out to a pink in the heat. Otherwise, overall it has been reasonably consistent here. I have no major complaints about this one. I hope this helps a bit....See MoreGrowing Lady Emma Hamilton in Zone 5
Comments (35)My Lady Emma Hamilton has done reasonably well for me here. I like the color and the fragrance. Mine has never had a large number of flowers at any given time. Rather, it has had smaller numbers of flowers, but more frequently. The bush tends to grow wider than tall. It is not a large bush. Lady of Shalott is a monster that has lots of flowers all season, but they fade in the sun and do not have much of a fragrance. If you are considering Benjamin Britten, watch out. This one typically gets 10-15 ft tall in my yard. It has plenty of flowers, but they fade from vermilion to a sort of watermelon pink. I can comment on my long-term observations with my Summer Songs. They do sort of okay if we do not have a late, hard freeze. However, this past summer was the first year that any of them made a half-effort at reblooming. The flowers were small, but at least they were there. It may be like some of the other old hybrid perpetuals that had to be at least 6 or 7 years old before they would rebloom. They can be quite showy in the spring, but they are not like Crocus Rose by any stretch of the imagination....See Moredebnfla8b
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